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Author:  Xavid [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:25 pm ]
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Thanks Wet Doggg for being our test subject. I hope to get positive reports back over the next few years :D :P

Author:  LouC [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:32 pm ]
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For anyone needing tires right now, I have had good service from the Kenda Load Star bias tires on my trailer, they have been on there for 7 years without problems. You can get them from Eastern Marine in Delaware, and I have seen that they come standard on many new Venture and Load Rite trailers....

Author:  230 Mike [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:38 pm ]
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Just talked to the place I've bought all my tires for 25 years. They sell Carlisle and the guy I spoke with knew about the redesign. He said at the moment they have the 8-ply tires (load range D) out in the new design, but not the 6-ply (LR C), yet, but they're working on those.

I also just became responsible for a 22' enclosed marching band utility trailer that's way overdue for new tires. It currently has 8 year old, load range C (i.e., running at the limit of their capacity), Canadian-built Marathons that are worn down almost to the carcasses, have been run on the highway for extended periods at 25% of proper pressure, have split sidewalls, never spent a day OUT of the sun, and have never caused a problem. Those days seem to be over.

I'm strongly considering putting new Carlisle D's on it. $608 out the door with balancing.

Author:  Wet Doggg [ Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:26 am ]
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230 Mike wrote:
I'm strongly considering putting new Carlisle D's on it. $608 out the door with balancing.


Not knocking your shop at all...my price that I paid from Discount Tire was just under $450 OTD with balancing and all.

Author:  230 Mike [ Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:30 am ]
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I thought that seemed high too. As it happens there aren't many Carlisle dealers around here so I'd either have to have them shipped or pick a different brand.

Author:  doc99 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:49 pm ]
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if you have not bought your tires yet check out hercules tires I had the same issue with my travel trailer and boat trailer.I put the hercules tires on 2 years ago and I pull both trailers thousands of miles a year and I am very pleased with the weathering and road wear. the tires cost about 75.00 a piece.

Author:  blue dragon [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:38 am ]
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Much thanks to Bill Kruger at FW. I received my replacement tire today (Greenball Towmaster), came with a rim too. I'll use it as my spare, I'm getting some Hercules trailer tires to replace the Freeway brand which my trailer came with. I've googled this brand, and I couldn't find any information on it, so I suspect its an offbrand chinese made tire.

I've run Hercules tires before on my car without issues, so I'll give their trailer tires a try.

Author:  230 Mike [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:36 am ]
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I'm having a set of the new Carlisles (plus the spare) put on our marching band trailer this afternoon. We've got a bit of an odd size, especially when combined with the need for an 8-ply tire, so it basically came down to the Carlisle or the Maxxis. Frankly I would've gone with the Maxxis just based on more real world history and price, but that size/load range is on national backorder right now. I talked to the Maxxis USA HQ and was told there isn't a single one of those tires in North America at the moment.

So "new Carlisle" it is. I've brought the Director of Bands up to speed on the issues surrounding trailer tire maintenance and the importance of keeping the pressure topped off. That'll be my job for the next (probably) 2 years; after that it'll be up to him to make sure someone continues it. The current tires are 8-year-old Canadian Marathons which have been run on half (or less) of rated pressure for most of their lives due to sheer negligence. They went from Kansas to Florida and back twice that way, loaded to the limit. Not one blowout. Hopefully I've impressed on him the fact that he'll never have that kind of performance out of his trailers again.

Author:  gregs [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:53 am ]
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RANT ON :evil:
Why is it so hard to get good quality North American built trailer tires?
There must be a billion trailer tires that need replacing. The RV trailer market must experience the same thing.
Buying decent tires for a car or light truck is simple. I have always subscribed to the theory of proper trailer tires for a trailer and not LT tires. But now I'm not so sure...
RANT OFF :x

I too need to replace the 4 year old Carlisle's on my trailer. 1 sidewall cracked at last count, less than 3000miles.

Greg

Author:  Paul I. [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:05 pm ]
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LouC wrote:
wow, even my 7 year old Load Stars don't have any cracks like that.
It depends on what you want, if you don't mind buying an imported tire, the Load Stars and the Khumos are good.
If you want made in USA, I'd look at getting the GY Wrangler ATS 235/75-15 in D rating, as long as the load capacity is adequate for your trailer. The D rated 225s in ST trailer size may be a few hundred pounds higher rated that the Goodyears, which are an LT truck tire. And some people don't like Goodyears, but I had 2 sets on my Jeep, I never had any kind of catastrophic failure of the kind common with trailer tires...


I did not know that the Load Star was imported!! Thanks!!

Author:  LouC [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:50 pm ]
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Yep they are made by Kenda, a company that has factories throughout South East Asia, I think. Most people who have them at least from reports on the 'net think well of them.
If you want decent quality, not made in the Far East, to me there are a couple of choices in LT tires, in a 15" size..
Goodyear Wrangler ATS, LT 235/75-15 D rated

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... &tab=Sizes


Pirelli Scorpion ATR, LT 235/75-75 D rated.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... mpare1=yes

the Goodyear is made in the US, the Pirelli in South America, both are rated at 2335 lbs at 65 psi. About as high as you can find for a 15" wheel.
The GY is cheaper, at 105 each the Pirelli is a lot more, 153 each.
I'd say given the poor quality of trailer tires, if I had 15" rims I'd go with the GY.

Author:  230 Mike [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:52 pm ]
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gregs wrote:
Why is it so hard to get good quality North American built trailer tires?


Same reason it's so hard to get good quality North American built anything these days. You're right, the RV crowd is scrambling for the new "go-to" tire too, probably more so than the boating community. You'd think the market is big enough to warrant someone making a really good tire. Who knows, maybe this new Carlisle will be it. Maybe not.

I will say, the Korean Hankooks I put on my wife's minivan a year ago may just be the best tires I've ever owned. They are by far the quietest and they're wearing beautifully. As I see it, the biggest problem at the moment is that trailer tires for the most part just aren't made by the major manufacturers. If Michelin or even BFG would make a trailer tire it would probably be decent. It's truly disgusting that GY took the Marathon and turned it into crap.

Author:  blue dragon [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:03 pm ]
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Hercules trailer tires are installed. I got load range E for $120/tire installed. I'll post my review next weekend, I'm taking the boat to Crystal Beach on lake Erie, about 200km one way.

Author:  Wet Doggg [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:23 pm ]
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230 Mike wrote:
I will say, the Korean Hankooks I put on my wife's minivan a year ago may just be the best tires I've ever owned.


I put a set of Hankooks on my Armada about a year ago. They are more on the knobby side but still amazingly quiet on the highway. Best tires I have owned.

Well...over 600 miles put on the new Carlisles in the past week. Probably 1,200 since new. They are running great and holding 65 pounds.

Author:  230 Mike [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:44 pm ]
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Thanks for the update WD! Now that I've spent over $600 of band parent donation money (including the spare and a wheel repair), I'm glad to hear there's hope for them. :D Hope your big trip went great.

Next decision will be next year for me: Carlisle or Maxxis... I'm hoping the answer will come to me in a dream.

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