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Author:  fun2bethad [ Mon May 02, 2011 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Reversing with surge brakes

Just purchased a 238 Vista with related trailer. On my old boat, I converted the surge brakes to electric which I much prefer. My question is, how do I back up a hill without the surge brakes engaging? I looked the entire trailer over and there is NOTHING like a switch, etc. to put it into reverse. Any help is super appreciated!

Author:  ridepate [ Mon May 02, 2011 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

Does it have a 5-pin flat connector??? If it does, your reverse lock-out is there.

Author:  LouC [ Mon May 02, 2011 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

If it has drum brakes and they are the free-backing kind, then no solenoid is needed and you should be able to back up without a problem, unless they are frozen up. If you have discs there should be a back up solenoid in line the the brake line from the master cylinder.

Author:  SeaBoo [ Mon May 02, 2011 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

It could alos be on the coupler there (may be) a pin and a hole (below the coupler latch handle). You insert the pin when you back up (or anytime you want your trailer brakes NOT to engage).

Author:  taz42169 [ Tue May 03, 2011 4:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

If you don't have a 5 pin connector, you can use a piece of 2x4 to keep the tongue from moving backwards engaging the surge brake. I would only do this if you're not backing that far....
It's a good quick fix.

Author:  fun2bethad [ Tue May 03, 2011 7:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

Good stuff to investigate. It is a flat five that I plug into a 7 way bargman plug via a converter. I have to confess that I haven't actually tried to back up into my driveway yet so I can't say with certainty they will lock up. I cut my grass off three weeks ago to install sod and it is currently a mud bowl so I didn't dare attempt to back an 8 foot wide trailer up and 8 foot wide drive way with soupy mud on either side. Anyway, thanks for the ideas. I'll keep exploring.

Author:  97_245_sd [ Tue May 03, 2011 7:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

My 1997 has the free backing drums. I'm not sure when they made the switch to disc brakes but your '99 might be similar to my '97.

Author:  taz42169 [ Tue May 03, 2011 7:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

That 5th Pin actually controls the surge allowing you to back up when the vehicle is placed in reverse. If that doesn't work, the old piece of wood is a good stand by! Good luck

Author:  Paul I. [ Tue May 03, 2011 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

If it means anything, if you just want to check to see if the solenoid is working. Take a small 12v battery, say from a cordless drill, gound the Neg side the the female pulg on the flat 5-pin connector. Then attach the Pos side to the #5pin (the last pin), you should hear the solenoid open and close when you connect & reconnect.

Good luck
Paul

Author:  ridepate [ Tue May 03, 2011 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Reversing with surge brakes

I wired my S/R's lockout to the socket on one of the reverse-lights.

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