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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:23 pm 
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sundowner 205 (2005) with dual axle trailer.
the bearing sizes touted over the web seem wrong.
ie 22580 and 15123. the former is way too big.

before i ring FW in sydney ( where service goes to die) i thought id check with the people who know best !!

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:22 pm 
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I suspect that as yours is a tandem they may be the same as mine.... On my trailer, bearings are:

Inner bearing: L68149 (1.378” x 2.36”)
Outer bearing: L44649 (1.063” x 1.975”)
Seal: 171255TC – Double lipped seal 1.71”ID, 2.55” OD, 0.5” deep

The numbers should be etched on the bearing race. Hope this helps...

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:08 pm 
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that looks better. thanks
scott

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:11 am 
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Don't forget new races...

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:50 pm 
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+1 to Mikes comment. Never put new bearings on old races - always replace the race as well. Well worth the small amount of time ot takes to belt the old races out of the hub and press new ones in.

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:31 pm 
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i have a gear puller tool which got the seal out intact - i guess it will pull the race out. now to google how to install.

the bearing shop guy was concerned about the larger bearing as apparently they come in different sized races...

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:29 pm 
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Not that it matters now, but here are the parts I would expect on your trailer:


Inner bearing:
FourWinns #005-0440
Timken or Peer #25580
I.D. 1.75"

Inner race:
Timken or Peer #25520

Outer bearing:
FourWinns #005-0441
Timken or Peer #15123
I.D. 1.25"

Outer race:
Timken or Peer #15245

Seal:
FourWinns #005-0442
Victor #47017
Peer #POS2253337TBN
Generic #GS42
I.D. 2 1/4"
O.D. 3 3/8"
Thickness .375"
Dual lip, spring reinforced


For the races, I use a long steel punch and a 3lb. drill hammer to drive them out from the opposite side of the hub. To install the new ones, I use one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/OTC-4507-Bearing- ... 710&sr=8-1

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:02 pm 
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Maybe take a hub in to the bearing place as the race will have a part number on it or he can measure the hub.

Yep, just use a steel drift or chisel to remove the old races, and I usually just drive the new race into the hub using the old race as the hammering surface.

...Or you can get a bearing joint to press them in and out... but where's the fun in this?? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:42 pm 
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230 Mike wrote:
Not that it matters now, but here are the parts I would expect on your trailer:


Inner bearing:
FourWinns #005-0440
Timken or Peer #25580
I.D. 1.75"

Inner race:
Timken or Peer #25520

Outer bearing:
FourWinns #005-0441
Timken or Peer #15123
I.D. 1.25"

Outer race:
Timken or Peer #15245

Seal:
FourWinns #005-0442
Victor #47017
Peer #POS2253337TBN
Generic #GS42
I.D. 2 1/4"
O.D. 3 3/8"
Thickness .375"
Dual lip, spring reinforced


these are very wrong for th trailers we have. i originally picked up these and they are way to big. soem of the FW trailers have big 6 stud hubs. i imagine these suit them...

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:01 pm 
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OK, sorry about that. I wouldn't have thought FW would put that much boat on a trailer with 5-lug hubs.

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 Post subject: Re: bearing size
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:43 pm 
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forgot four winns sent me this...

2004 - 205 Sundowner Tandem Axle


ACRA LUBE END CAP 14"(use 005-0904 for plug)
AXLE IDLER 1750# 76SC - USE 005-1246
BEARING PROTECTOR SMALL/BEARING BUDDY
BEARING RACE INNER #L68111
BEARING, INNER (TIMKIN L68149)
BEARING, OUTER (TIMKIN L44649)
BEARING, RACE OUTER (L44610)
BRAKE HUB SEAL 1750# (NATIONAL 43336)

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