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| Author: | HrynykJ [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Just picked up a 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 on a trade for a 2006 Harley Sportster. Its got the Big Block Ford 460 and King Cobra Outdrive. Previous owner provided receipts showing $4600 of work in the outdrive in 2009. I was told I'm the 3rd owner. Came on the original Four Winns trailer in fair conditon. Boat has 350 hours, bennet trim tabs, updated stereo system, shift assist. Aside from basic information I do not know a whole lot about Liberators. This is my first prop drive boat, second boat overall. Looking to learn more about these boats; e.g what to watch out for? the goods, the bads? Working on getting pics posted. Should be up shortly! Thanks, Justin |
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| Author: | HrynykJ [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
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| Author: | HrynykJ [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Ran into my first issue. There's a steady drip coming from a bracket on the transom that appears to be holding the out drive. 
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| Author: | LouC [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Boat looks good; I think the interior for sure was re done because that's not original. Are those Soda cans in the bilge? |
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| Author: | HrynykJ [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
LouC wrote: Boat looks good; I think the interior for sure was re done because that's not original. Are those Soda cans in the bilge? Thanks! I agree, the interior must have recently been redone, looks to be new carpeting and upholstery. That is a can in the bilge, I haven't had a chance to fish it out. I'd estimate the bilge takes in about 1-2 gallons of water an hour. I recently read somewhere to try tightening the out drive bolts and use 4200 sealant around the out drive. Any other suggestions as far as where else the water could be coming from? Thanks |
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| Author: | HrynykJ [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
 I circled the area that I visually see the drops coming from. |
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| Author: | deafwish [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Awesome old skool boat! I hope for your sake that you don't have a rotten transom. p.s. If you're on FaceBook, like the Four Winns Boat Owners Page! 
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| Author: | LouC [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
About the leak, well this is one of the big pains about an I/O and why many people here will not have one. There are many places for them to leak from. Outboards do not have this issue. It could be from the drive shaft bellows, the transom seal or the Y pipe gasket. The first one is not a bad job on the Cobra but the next 2 require pulling the engine. I'd pull the drive first and check the bellows. If it's not that then you got a project on your hands. |
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| Author: | alex8q4 [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
I love the all white hull, looks great. I vote leaking bellows. Cheers! |
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| Author: | rpengr [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
LouC wrote: It could be from the drive shaft bellows, the transom seal or the Y pipe gasket. I would narrow it down to the first two. I don't see a Y-pipe in the picture, so this must be a thru-hull exhaust setup. I had a 1987 boat that had some leakage at the transom seal. It helped to seal the outside with rtv and tighten the six nuts on the inside of the transom shield. This is a Band-Aid solution, but it may be a realistic solution considering the age of the boat, and if you trailer the boat (not leaving it in the water for days/weeks at a time). The risk is that if you continue to have ANY leakage, it will eventually cause rot in the transom wood...then you have an expensive repair to deal with. You may already have transom rot...that might be why they sold the boat. There are a lot of articles you can read if you search. |
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| Author: | HrynykJ [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
rpengr wrote: LouC wrote: It could be from the drive shaft bellows, the transom seal or the Y pipe gasket. I would narrow it down to the first two. I don't see a Y-pipe in the picture, so this must be a thru-hull exhaust setup. It is the thru hull exhaust. Would have the bellows likely have been when the out drive work was done in 2009? Thanks for the input! |
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| Author: | LouC [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Keep in mind that there is only one style of Y pipe. So even if there is a through the hull exhaust there will be a block off plate and gasket installed on the standard Y pipe that can still leak. The bellows may have been done on 09 but if it looked good they might have left it alone. If you store it with the drive mostly down they last a long time. I hope it's that and not the other 2. But if it is you gotta bite the billet and get er done. I had to do a stringer repair and deck job on mine. |
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| Author: | flyweed [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
agreed......if it's Bellows, you are golden....anything else..you are in for a lot of work and money. |
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| Author: | LouC [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Don't freak out if you need to do that job...I had to do a big one on my old '88 about 10 years ago...deck n stringers...I did some of it....farmed out the more difficult part to the 'glass shop....it came out great...boat is still solid as a rock....and I know every inch of that ole tub.... The Liberators are a unique style of boat and I'd just figure out a way to get it done. I see boats as long term investments esp if you can do a lot of it yourself. There is another member on here doing the same transom job right now. But thats gettin' ahead of the story...keep thinking positive.... |
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| Author: | ridepate [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to me : 1989 Four Winns Liberator 211 |
Looks like somebody has already tried to tighten the transom shield. The plate at the bottom is bowing towards the bow and I can see where they have "squashed" the transom from tightening. Not a good sign.... |
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