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Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eyes?
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Author:  rpengr [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eyes?
Does anyone know if the Transom Eyes and Bow Eye are designed to be capable of lifting the whole boat (fully rigged)? The owner's manual does not seem to say one way or the other.

I have two 5ton overhead cranes available in the shop I work at, that are quite capable of lifting the boat off the trailer. It would be great to lift the boat off the trailer for a through cleaning and waxing of the bottom running surface.

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early 2000 Horizon 240. Showing Transom Eyes
Author:  Winter Sux [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
Absolutely not!
Author:  strick [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
I remember back in 1981 when we bought our first boat (a Glastron SSV177), we watched the marina pick it up on a shop crane by those eyes while they adjusted the trailer rollers' alignment underneath it. I thought it was CRAZY then, and luckily it went okay. I absolutely would not put that kind of stress on those components.
Author:  captwalt [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
why not use your cranes with straps to distribute the load of the boat?
Author:  rpengr [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
captwalt wrote:
why not use your cranes with straps to distribute the load of the boat?

Because I cannot get straps under the boat while it is on the trailer, and they would be in the way of the cleaning/waxing. I suppose I could lay the straps across the trailer prior to retrieving the boat out of the water.

I think the hardware would be strong enough if it was in the real transom, but back in the sponsons... I don't think so.
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
Mine was lifted by the bow eye and a sling/spreader near the back, by the shop who replaced my bunks. No problems at all. But I would say the majority of the weight needs to be supported by slings, not the transom eyes.
Author:  strick [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
With the choice to lift the boat by the bow and stern eyes, I'm reminded of a valuable old adage to consider any time when making decisions in life: What's the best and the worst thing that can happen?

Pretty big spread of outcomes in this case! :shock: I would find another way to lift it!
Author:  kd4pbs [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
Back the boat into the water while keeping the bow hooked. The boat will float, the trailer won't. Think outside the box, man! :)
Author:  rpengr [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
230 Mike wrote:
Mine was lifted by the bow eye and a sling/spreader near the back, by the shop who replaced my bunks. No problems at all. But I would say the majority of the weight needs to be supported by slings, not the transom eyes.

Thanks Mike. That's the info I am looking for.
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
Do keep in mind, the spreader is critical.
Author:  EvilZ [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
When my buddy's Horizon was hoisted into the water up in Redondo Beach, they used a floor jack to lift it off the trailer enough to slide straps under the boat and then the crane to lift it off the trailer.

Your boat, but if it was me I wouldn't rely on the bow and transom eyes.
Author:  pet575 [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
I've been having nightmares since reading the original post. I think I'd lean toward the slings. Question: waxing the running surface? What for? The wax would last for a matter of minutes at cruising speed. I'd just wax what you can reach with it on the trailer and not bother with the portions near the bunks/rollers anyway.
Author:  rpengr [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
pet575 wrote:
I've been having nightmares since reading the original post. I think I'd lean toward the slings. Question: waxing the running surface? What for? The wax would last for a matter of minutes at cruising speed. I'd just wax what you can reach with it on the trailer and not bother with the portions near the bunks/rollers anyway.

It is the brown staining that I would have liked to remove, and maybe even machine polish afterward.

I will rescue you from your nightmares. I am not going to do it.
Author:  jnizi [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
I'm with EvilZ. You don't need a lot of space to get the straps underneath. I would not trust the transom and bow eye.
Author:  RotaryRacer [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a Four Winns be crane lifted by it transom & bow eye
Also, DO NOT work under the boat when supported by anything other than solid objects and the ground.

Don't worry about slings being in the way, they should NOT be what is supporting the boat while your working anyways. Get some blocks of wood and lower the boat so it is resting with the keel on the blocks and at least something at each chine at the transom to keep it from tipping.
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