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Ok so I have some conflict. I hear not to use wax with carnuba in it on gel coat because it will yellow the gel coat. the Maguirs pure wax is a carnuba blend, the flagship premium doesnt say what is in it. And this wax they recomended at the Mastercraft dealer ( I was there because it was the only place open on the weekend) was a carnuba based wax that said it was good for gelcoat etc. So i got the flagship wax because it made no mention of carnuba. The person at the store said that carnuba when left on for many years itself will turn yellow but will not yellow the gelcoat. I need everyones .02

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Four winns 180 horizon

I don't know if there are any chemists here qualified to address the effects of carnauba on gel coat. I *do* know that the Flagship Premium has a lot of usage behind it by a lot of boaters, and I've never heard anything less than, "You have to see this to believe it." I assume it uses silicones as a "wax" agent, but I don't know for sure.

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Mike
2005 Four Winns 230/240
VP 5.7GXi/DP
1998 F-150 XLT
Boat Pic

I use the Meguir's Flagship as it was recommended to me on this forum and elsewhere, including my dealer.

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"Conch'd Out!"

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I've heard good things about Collinite Fleetwax too.

I stick with what the big boys use. Bluewater, Carver, Fountain and Cigarette. Collinite Fleetwax 885. They put on the best demo I ever seen at the Miami Boat show in 05 proving why they offer the best wax out. I also learned not to wax below the waterline, it slows the boat down!

I've always heard the same about carnuba, and have always stayed away from it. I had a 1973 I/O that I used to wax frequently (but never with carnuba) and the white on it still looked bright with no yellowing and my dad said it looked just like it did when he drove it off the showroom floor.

So, chemistry degree (which I DON'T have) aside, I stay away from the carnuba. I've always heard good reviews of Collinite, but isn't that a carnuba-based wax?

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Paul
2007 Four Winns Horizon 220
Mercruiser 350 Mag MPI w/ Bravo III Drive
2004 Ford Explorer Limited (V8-AWD)
Pomme de Terre Lake (Southwest Missouri)

The Meguir's Flagship turned out to be excellent. On and off the boat easy and dear god the richness of the black on the hull! Lookes fantastic. Think I'll be using this forever...

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Rob
2007 Four Winns 180 Horizon

I vouch for the Meguir's Flagship, based on many good words from this site and others. I wasn't dissapointed when I put it on! Longevity: not sure of that yet. I 'll let you know after this season!

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2009 H180 w/3.0 Merc
Homebuilt Minimax Hydro
2011 Zodiac Cadet 310

Sweet I am glad I made the right choice

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Four winns 180 horizon

light oxidation remover with the buffer, flagship with the DA. Glad I have the smallest cruiser!!

3M make a marine wax that contains no carnuba. better safe than sorry i guess

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/e ... ro/marine/

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I was using a carnuba paste wax which worked well, then I friend recommended Collinite. The cleaner and wax leave a showroom finish.

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'06 210 Horizon 5.0 VP GXI
Port Orange, Florida

Yep, I used both the Collinite cleaner and the wax on our 348 and it looks fantastic. It was relatively easy to apply. I actually found it easier to apply and remove by hand than with a polisher. Hanging my arm up there with a wobbling polisher was actually more tiring than just swabbing it off by hand.

I also used Flitz to clean the metal and than Collinite's metal wax on it. I didn't use the polishing ball as it would've taken more liquid and probably thrown a mess of it all over the place.

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

I have been using Maguirs cleaner wax and flagship premium on my boats and RVs for years with nothing but the best in results.

I used Maguirs Flagship on my last boat for at least 5 years and Never saw any yellowing. Someone is feeding you a line.

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2000 248 5.7L DP
'92, '94 SXI 750, '08 STX 15F, '12 Ultra LX 300
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Maguers cleaner wax here. I use it on the entire boat. after I cleaned the yellow lake stain of my boat this year I waxed the entire thing. I do below the water line as well. It fills the pours in the gel coat and helps remove the remaining stain from the hull. If it does slow it down then it cant be much plus the water and friction will remove the residual wax in short order anyway....

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2007 Horizon 190 Gxi
97 Pathfinder SE 4x4
73 International Scout II