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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:59 pm 
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I use 3m cleaner and flagship wax.Been doing it for three seasons nowand no problems so far


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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:09 pm 
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Ok so I have some conflict. I hear not to use wax with carnuba in it on gel coat because it will yellow the gel coat. the Maguirs pure wax is a carnuba blend, the flagship premium doesnt say what is in it


Count me as another happy Mequiars Flagship fan! Love the results and it's easy on and off. It does not contain "carnuba", I called Mequiars and they explained it's has a polymer base. The warning against using carnuba base wax is somewhere in the Four Winns owners manual. I know I remember reading it when I purchased my Vista in 2000. After several years of waxing with Mequiars Flagship the gel-coat looks factory fresh :!:

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:07 am 
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The current manual states:
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Apply wax once or twice a year to maintain gel coat lustre. Read the label before using any product. Make sure product is formulated for gel coat surfaces. . Also, consult a Four Winns dealer for their recommendations.

NOTICE

Do not use carnuba based waxes. This type of wax yellows over time and makes the fiberglass appear yellow.


They do not make a recommendation as to which brands of wax to consider.

I'm guessing just about any wax would be fine if probably applies AND properly removed. If you layered many coats of wax you'd cause problems regardless of type. A carnuba-based wax is probably more likely to yellow if you did this. But if you're completely removing it each time it seems less likely. I've seen folks go out an "touch up" their wax constantly after each trip. I can see where build-up is going to be a problem for them...

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:58 pm 
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I have been using Maguirs Flagship on my last boat for about 4 years and I will stick with it unless someone convinces me on my boat that their product works better.

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:25 pm 
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I've always used Mequairs on my past four boats and have been very satisfied with the results :D

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:27 pm 
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I have used Flagship for 6 years. I just switched recently to 3M. Marine wax with Scotchgard. It goes on and comes off easier than anything I have used. A gelcoat repairman recommended it for ease of use, and longer lasting protection from UV rays than Meguiars or Colonite.

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:27 pm 
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Thanks for that input Cap. Where do you get the 3M marine wax?

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:30 pm 
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You can get the 3M off ebay part #09026 $17.95.

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:27 am 
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Brent87LT1 wrote:
Thanks for that input Cap. Where do you get the 3M marine wax?


If you don't want to wait for e-bay delivery. And want to save a few bucks.
You can get it at Boater's World for $14.99
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/177870490.htm

Or you can get it at West Marine for $16.79. If you don't have a BW or WM close by your area, I guess you could resort to e-bay.

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:22 am 
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Luckily, we have both here in Tulsa (where I work).
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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:16 pm 
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My local Walmart has it for 9.99. I couldn't believe it so I got a few, I think I paid 16.99 at West Marine last time I got it. How long is long lasting? My cover guy says this "Trewax Boat Wax" is the best, use it twice a year and your good.

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:03 am 
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firecadet613 wrote:
My local Walmart has it for 9.99. I couldn't believe it so I got a few, I think I paid 16.99 at West Marine last time I got it. How long is long lasting? My cover guy says this "Trewax Boat Wax" is the best, use it twice a year and your good.


See above comments on carnuba wax on boats. They are true. I would stay away from the Trewax.

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TREWAX Four Seasons Boat Wax is a long-lasting, year around, marine wax formulated with Brazilian Carnauba for durability and shine.

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:08 am 
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TREWAX Four Seasons Boat Wax is a long-lasting, year around, marine wax formulated with Brazilian Carnauba for durability and shine.
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:shock: Someone must have been using that on the bottom of my hull before delivery!

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:55 pm 
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Cap'n Morgan wrote:

See above comments on carnuba wax on boats. They are true. I would stay away from the Trewax.

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TREWAX Four Seasons Boat Wax is a long-lasting, year around, marine wax formulated with Brazilian Carnauba for durability and shine.


I've got a pretty good supply of 3M now...I'm sticking with that :)

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 Post subject: Re: WAX!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:11 pm 
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Cap'n Morgan wrote:
I have used Flagship for 6 years. I just switched recently to 3M. Marine wax with Scotchgard. It goes on and comes off easier than anything I have used. A gelcoat repairman recommended it for ease of use, and longer lasting protection from UV rays than Meguiars or Colonite.


I just waxed my boat finally with 3M Marine with Scotchguard, definately easy to apply and remove, good gloss and feels smooth.
Thanks for the tip Capn------Wax on Wax off-------

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