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Author:  jfair [ Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:57 am ]
Post subject:  Vista fuse panel replacement

The fuse panel in my Vista278 was showing signs of wear and there was a dead spot or two. The plastic for the new door was cut at a local factory and I bought two Blue Seas fuse boxes.

Old fuse panel
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Getting ready to remove old panel
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New Blue Seas fuse boxes
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Nearly finished. The old system had 28 places, this one has 24. Three fuse areas are doubled up but this will be fixed. Access is easier and I have ring terminals rather than the push on type.
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Author:  babbot1 [ Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

WOW! Thats nice! And much cleaner.
I like the covers over the terminals. It looks like you had to cut the opening since the new block looks larger or is it the pics that make it look different.

Author:  taz42169 [ Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

Looks great!

Author:  Paul I. [ Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

Nice job!

Author:  jfair [ Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

babbot1 wrote:
WOW! Thats nice! And much cleaner.
I like the covers over the terminals. It looks like you had to cut the opening since the new block looks larger or is it the pics that make it look different.


I cut the opening as large as possible given the amount of flat area available. Not as much room as I would have liked but still an improvemnent. One feature you can't see in the photo is that the plastic factory cut a rebate in the frame for the door. I had attempted to buy a standard hatch cover but couldn't find anything close to the required size. The Seaboard only cost $40 supplied and cut.

Author:  jfair [ Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

This is the Blue Seas fuse block which forms the basis of the renovation. The picture shows the model with a negative bus bar which I would have preferred but I couldn't squeeze two of them in. I installed fuse blocks without negative bus bars and have a separate bus bar which is buried below the spaghetti junction in the background.


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Author:  jgreve75 [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

Nice job! I had to make a similar repair on my 268.

Author:  Graham R [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

The wiring on my 2009 278 is so bizarre, huge current draws with nothing switched on and many components being supplied with less than 12V permanently when they should be " dead". Bilge pump wiring that could never have worked properly. I think I will rewire the whole boat this winter (clearly using as much of the original wiring as I can). The wiring schematics in the owners manual are wrong. FW steadfastly refuse to provide wiring schematics for my boat even to their dealers ! Either they are ashamed of what they did, or have no record of what they did ! I am very disappointed and that's before the fatal Volvo EVC issues are considered. A whole boating season lost. What a shambles.

Author:  jfair [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

Graham R wrote:
The wiring on my 2009 278 is so bizarre, huge current draws with nothing switched on and many components being supplied with less than 12V permanently when they should be " dead". Bilge pump wiring that could never have worked properly. I think I will rewire the whole boat this winter (clearly using as much of the original wiring as I can). The wiring schematics in the owners manual are wrong. FW steadfastly refuse to provide wiring schematics for my boat even to their dealers ! Either they are ashamed of what they did, or have no record of what they did ! I am very disappointed and that's before the fatal Volvo EVC issues are considered. A whole boating season lost. What a shambles.


My manual shows the wiring colors, for example navigation lights orange/gray, engine hatch orange, fridge red/green. Before pulling the old fuse panel out I labelled each wire and checked it against the color code. With the new fuses in place I pulled one fuse at a time to check that its device was correctly identified. Additions since leaving the factory were a little trickier. The latest development is a fuse layout diagram. Each circuit was tested before the drawing was finalized.

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Author:  babbot1 [ Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

Graham R wrote:
The wiring on my 2009 278 is so bizarre, huge current draws with nothing switched on and many components being supplied with less than 12V permanently when they should be " dead". Bilge pump wiring that could never have worked properly. I think I will rewire the whole boat this winter (clearly using as much of the original wiring as I can). The wiring schematics in the owners manual are wrong. FW steadfastly refuse to provide wiring schematics for my boat even to their dealers ! Either they are ashamed of what they did, or have no record of what they did ! I am very disappointed and that's before the fatal Volvo EVC issues are considered. A whole boating season lost. What a shambles.


2009 seemed to be a tough year for FW offices. It was the year they broke up Genmar. I had tons of issues trying to find a part for my Glastron(same parent company then and now) Four Winns said everything was sold off, even schematics to remake the part were not to be found.
I think someone packed a truck and headed to Mexico.....

Author:  Graham R [ Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Vista fuse panel replacement

babbot1 wrote:
Graham R wrote:
The wiring on my 2009 278 is so bizarre, huge current draws with nothing switched on and many components being supplied with less than 12V permanently when they should be " dead". Bilge pump wiring that could never have worked properly. I think I will rewire the whole boat this winter (clearly using as much of the original wiring as I can). The wiring schematics in the owners manual are wrong. FW steadfastly refuse to provide wiring schematics for my boat even to their dealers ! Either they are ashamed of what they did, or have no record of what they did ! I am very disappointed and that's before the fatal Volvo EVC issues are considered. A whole boating season lost. What a shambles.


2009 seemed to be a tough year for FW offices. It was the year they broke up Genmar. I had tons of issues trying to find a part for my Glastron(same parent company then and now) Four Winns said everything was sold off, even schematics to remake the part were not to be found.
I think someone packed a truck and headed to Mexico.....


I have no doubt I can sort it out; then I'll have a nice boat.

Whilst there was problems with the EVC system (shift actuator; failure ==> by no means safe, trim switch, shift lever, new shift lever refusing to work with HCU:what a BAD idea) I was reluctant to attack and sort out the conventional wiring. Now the EVC demon has been exorcised, I can progress !

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