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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:26 pm 
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I'm thinking about trying a mushroom anchor for Mohave - Have you tried one up on Mead?


No I have only tried the box and before that the danforth.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
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Somehow mine came unhooked from my quick disconnect when I used mine last and it is GONE to the bottom of the lake. If anybody has one they want to sell, please let me know before I pull the trigger on a new one.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:26 pm 
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i am a firm believer in a DANFORTH design anchor with lots of chain

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:32 pm 
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I use the Windlass on my boat, the box anchor is what I use as a stern anchor when needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:39 pm 
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LVChris what about a Pulpit or a Fairlead

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
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I bought a Fortress fluke (Danforth style) anchor for the rear. It has great holding power in sand and is lighter than a steel one 2 or 3 sizes smaller

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:35 pm 
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Jdpber wrote:
LVChris what about a Pulpit or a Fairlead

I'm out of town right now have to look that up when I get home...never heard of them?

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:53 am 
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fairlead also can be within a pulpit.

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and this is a pulpit

http://www.seaveeboats.com/pics/bowPulpitWindless.jpg

just tossing ideas out their..


another note.. all of these sand anchors and box anchors and hocus pokus smoke in mirrors bullshit i tend to mainly see DANFORTH, Plow, Bruce wedge style anchors of all shapes makes and size boats that i am on and around.. i wonder why the Danforth is so common could it be that it freaking simply works and works very well..

The fortress is a great Danforth syle aluminum anchor. the down fall is you HAVE TO, must have a good stretch of chain on it to keep the shank down thus driving the Flukes down into the ground for a good hold. I am a firm believer in chain! my stern anchor is 100' of 1/2" rope on 15' of chain on a 2.5# danforth anchor.. and i will put the hold of this tiny anchor against most any stern anchors out their.. and the chain is what makes it hold.. as for my bow i have 3/4 200' with 23' of white powder coated chain and a 10# and you guessed it is a danforth. Another key element that so many people FAIL on when anchoring is the SCOPE.. you should have 7:1 rode out for the given depth for a proper hold.. MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER! I tend to believe that you should have the chain the length of the boat or greater for proper hold..

Now depending on your weather conditions you will need greater Rode out to compensate for the wave troth and also do not forget about the bow height in your depth calculations.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:57 am 
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EvilZ wrote:
I'm thinking about trying a mushroom anchor for Mohave - Have you tried one up on Mead?


mushroom anchors are for holding 15' jon boats on the fishing hole not large heavy boats. IF you must have something i would go for this style mushroom this is what i use when we are duck hunting it holds well in wind for the jon boat.. but it will still drag is used in the river. but i would surest a smaller danforth with a decent cain as your stern for a solid hold.. the 2.5 with chain i use for my Four Winns stern is my main anchor for my 15' fishing boat.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:48 am 
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LVChris contact Neutron he has what looks like in his Signature picture what you need.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:11 pm 
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Jdpber wrote:
fairlead also can be within a pulpit.

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and this is a pulpit

http://www.seaveeboats.com/pics/bowPulpitWindless.jpg

just tossing ideas out their..


another note.. all of these sand anchors and box anchors and hocus pokus smoke in mirrors bullshit i tend to mainly see DANFORTH, Plow, Bruce wedge style anchors of all shapes makes and size boats that i am on and around.. i wonder why the Danforth is so common could it be that it freaking simply works and works very well..

The fortress is a great Danforth syle aluminum anchor. the down fall is you HAVE TO, must have a good stretch of chain on it to keep the shank down thus driving the Flukes down into the ground for a good hold. I am a firm believer in chain! my stern anchor is 100' of 1/2" rope on 15' of chain on a 2.5# danforth anchor.. and i will put the hold of this tiny anchor against most any stern anchors out their.. and the chain is what makes it hold.. as for my bow i have 3/4 200' with 23' of white powder coated chain and a 10# and you guessed it is a danforth. Another key element that so many people FAIL on when anchoring is the SCOPE.. you should have 7:1 rode out for the given depth for a proper hold.. MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER! I tend to believe that you should have the chain the length of the boat or greater for proper hold..

Now depending on your weather conditions you will need greater Rode out to compensate for the wave troth and also do not forget about the bow height in your depth calculations.



Back from vacation and yes I get it now. Problem is those are made for fluke or plow anchors. The box would just spin around at the end of the pulpit. The box anchor came HIGHLY recommended for my lake (Lake Mead) large deep lake with very strong winds and mostly a mud/clay bottom. The main reason I stowed my danforth and bought a box is I have had problems in the past getting the anchor to hold my size boat in the wind even with 12 feet of heavy chain and a good amount of scope (7 times in 40 feet of water is tuff to have on my 238) .

The box holds well and is designed to come free from mud when pulled straight up, I have used it several times, works great just clumsy to deploy/retrieve.

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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:10 pm 
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LVChris wrote:
Jdpber wrote:
fairlead also can be within a pulpit.

Image

and this is a pulpit

http://www.seaveeboats.com/pics/bowPulpitWindless.jpg

just tossing ideas out their..


another note.. all of these sand anchors and box anchors and hocus pokus smoke in mirrors bullshit i tend to mainly see DANFORTH, Plow, Bruce wedge style anchors of all shapes makes and size boats that i am on and around.. i wonder why the Danforth is so common could it be that it freaking simply works and works very well..

The fortress is a great Danforth syle aluminum anchor. the down fall is you HAVE TO, must have a good stretch of chain on it to keep the shank down thus driving the Flukes down into the ground for a good hold. I am a firm believer in chain! my stern anchor is 100' of 1/2" rope on 15' of chain on a 2.5# danforth anchor.. and i will put the hold of this tiny anchor against most any stern anchors out their.. and the chain is what makes it hold.. as for my bow i have 3/4 200' with 23' of white powder coated chain and a 10# and you guessed it is a danforth. Another key element that so many people FAIL on when anchoring is the SCOPE.. you should have 7:1 rode out for the given depth for a proper hold.. MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER! I tend to believe that you should have the chain the length of the boat or greater for proper hold..

Now depending on your weather conditions you will need greater Rode out to compensate for the wave troth and also do not forget about the bow height in your depth calculations.



Back from vacation and yes I get it now. Problem is those are made for fluke or plow anchors. The box would just spin around at the end of the pulpit. The box anchor came HIGHLY recommended for my lake (Lake Mead) large deep lake with very strong winds and mostly a mud/clay bottom. The main reason I stowed my danforth and bought a box is I have had problems in the past getting the anchor to hold my size boat in the wind even with 12 feet of heavy chain and a good amount of scope (7 times in 40 feet of water is tuff to have on my 238) .

The box holds well and is designed to come free from mud when pulled straight up, I have used it several times, works great just clumsy to deploy/retrieve.


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 Post subject: Re: Box Anchor Storage
PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:13 pm 
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EvilZ wrote:
I'm thinking about trying a mushroom anchor for Mohave - Have you tried one up on Mead?


A year late but....

Mushroom does not hold, not even the back end when the front is secured with a box anchor. I gave my mine to my brother for his 20' Ranger bass boat. Works well as he is much lighter and lower profile.


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