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Author:  LVChris [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:25 am ]
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Bad news...at least for me. Took her out for the weekend, we were going to camp overnight on lake mojave. Went about 6 miles down the river and the steering was ok, not great it still seemed to be sticking just not as often or as much. Got down to where we were going to stay, and she froze completely. I couldn't move the wheel at all. Power steering pump is full, didn't see any wear or visible kinks in the cable. Really nice boater finally stopped and offered to tow us back to willow beach. At least I had power and we were able to go almost 20 mph the whole way using his boat as my steering.

Back at the ramp I tried moving the out drive by hand, had some friends examine her, no luck. Shes stuck.

Any thoughts? I will have my mechanic look at her this week...just driving me a little crazy not knowing.

By the way, we have towing insurance...but it caps at $300 the tow was looking at around $900...Looks like I am in the wrong business.
Author:  LVChris [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:24 pm ]
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Steering cable? Just searching the web for generic "steering stuck" But I can't find out how long mine is or what kind to buy...of course I won't be doing it anyway, too big a job for me.
Author:  crossram [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:01 pm ]
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my guess would be the cable, unhook the cable at the engine and see if you can move the out drive
Author:  LVChris [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:25 am ]
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Thanks for the response crossram. I had been thinking about that. Do I simply unscrew the nut at the end of the steering cable? Or can someone give me some instruction?
Author:  crossram [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:42 am ]
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if its the same as mine at the end of the cable there is a rod that connects the steering arm to the cable pull the cotter pin on the bottom and pull out the pin
Author:  LVChris [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:31 pm ]
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Update:

Had my mechanic take a look at her today...no one would have guessed this.

He wanted to disconnect the helm to check the cable and in doing so removed the tilt steering wheel housing. At this point he realized that the wheel wouldn't turn even though it was completely removed from the boat! A quick examination found a bolt busted off and wedged into the metal housing and causing the metal "clamp" part of the tilt to be completely wedged and stuck in the metal housing. So he's taking it back to the shop and drilling out the bolt and replacing...we think this will completely fix the problem. Here are some pics, not great but I was trying to document over his shoulder.

This is where the problem was.
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the 4 pieces that actually came out (there should be 5) and the broken screw. It is a self locking nut, but I was able to unscrew it off of this piece by hand!
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This is the stuck piece
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This now turns freely! Onec the Tilt mech is put back together I should be back in business.
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Is this one of those "tighten down these nuts twice a year" maintenance suggestions that I have missed or is mine just a fluke?

Has anyone seen this happen?
Author:  rpengr [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:42 pm ]
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Sounds like a fluke. But nice to hear it was at the helm and not the engine. Should be a lot less $$$$.
Author:  Surface Interval [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:46 pm ]
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Chris, I had something similar happen on my '95 190 Horizon. The screws that hold the tilt steering's universal joint to the steering wheel and steering shaft came loose when the 1995 boat was 2or 3 years old and locked the steering. Prior to this I did notice that the steering system had a little more play in it. I'm also very glad that I was driving at the time, and not my wife or son. With the tilt steering systems it is rather easy to peel the boot back from the dash toward the steering wheel and turn the wheel back and forth a little to check for a loose u joint. No tools are needed unless you need to tighten something. A #3 Phillips screwdriver worked for me and
I was able to do it in place without disassembly.
Author:  LouC [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:18 pm ]
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Interesting. I've never had a tilt for a boat so I did not realize that could happen. I would use locktite on the bolt's threads.....
Author:  LVChris [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:32 pm ]
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SI - That'sexactly what happened, mine just broke the bolt and got the whole piece jamed. Looking back I wish I would've tightened those bolts. No one I spoke to guessed this could have been the problem...probably one of those once in a lifetime events.
Author:  crossram [ Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:36 pm ]
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glad to hear you got it figured out
Author:  Gundog [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:44 am ]
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LVChris wrote:
Update:

This is where the problem was.
Image

the 4 pieces that actually came out (there should be 5) and the broken screw. It is a self locking nut, but I was able to unscrew it off of this piece by hand!
Image

This is the stuck piece
Image

This now turns freely! Onec the Tilt mech is put back together I should be back in business.
Image

Is this one of those "tighten down these nuts twice a year" maintenance suggestions that I have missed or is mine just a fluke?

Has anyone seen this happen?


I have a 23.8 that has the SAME problem. Except the pins that align/lock the parts are sheared. Does anyone have suggestion for where to find this component? A part number? if not OEM, is there aftermarket? Thank you.

mark
Author:  LVChris [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:56 am ]
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Gundog wrote:

I have a 23.8 that has the SAME problem. Except the pins that align/lock the parts are sheared. Does anyone have suggestion for where to find this component? A part number? if not OEM, is there aftermarket? Thank you.

mark


Mark Which part is sheared? The "pins" were nothing more than allen screws with lock nuts. Should be able to pick those up anywhere.
Author:  LouC [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:41 pm ]
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I'd honestly get rid of that. If they used pot metal or less than top quality bolts that's pretty damn scary. Just go back to the regular wheel.
Author:  LVChris [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:10 pm ]
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Lou, I couldn't see a way to convert it to a non-tilt wheel. It's utterly useless.
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