Technologic80 wrote:
Ok so this is what happened....
I had a winterizing kit that I borrowed from Partnership, here on IFourwinns - he uses it on his FW Vista with the 5.7l and has since he bought the boat in 2001. My plan was to try that first to see if I was comfortable with it. Turns out....
Ya DIDN'T listen to me!!
I ran the engine on the garden hose & muffs until it was good & hot (15 minutes).
Mine takes longer than that to warm up...the only way to tell for sure is not the temp gauge, but to feel the top of the thermo housing, if it's cool the thermo ain't open, if it's hot it is, letting hot water out of the block....
This is reason #1 why I don't recommend this method....but you drained the block so that's handled....
I then turned off the engine. I opened the block drains & drained the manifolds. I pulled the big fat hose off the t-stat housing, and pointed it downwards, draining what was left in the water pump into the bilge.
This part was OK....but that big hose drains better, if you pull off the BOTTOM of it,,,,
I then proceeded to close all the block drain plugs and plug the manifolds back up. I hooked up the winterizing kit and fired her up!! Bad news: for some reason it wouldnt suck in the antifreeze. So I shut her down.
the for some reason part is.....an impeller is designed to pull in water. Antifreeze has a greater specific gravity than water, in fact that's how antifreeze hydrometers work....and unless your impeller was in perfect condition, and the muffs fit perfect, the gravity feed method of AF use may not work.
This is reason #2 why I don't like this method...esp bad on Volvos and Bravos because the raw water pump is all the way up on the engine and they can't pull a more dense fluid up all that way...
I then took the manifold hoses off the t-stat housing and backfilled with antifreeze until I heard it come out of the outdrive, outside of the boat.
That's OK
I took the big fat hose off again, and backfilled that with antifreeze.
Did you see AF come out at the neck of the thermo housing...that way you know the engine is full
I pulled the power steering cooler line off and drained that (very little came out - is that normal?!).
Sometimes depending on the angle of the engine, that hose may partly drain out drive water intakes...but I like to fill it with AF till it comes out the intakes after draining to be sure...
I do not feel confident at all that I did this properly. Should I not have closed the petcocks and manifold drains before I added anti-freeze? OR did I get all of the water out when I drained them initially?
I like to leave the pet cocks out and start backfilling the manifolds and block till I see the last of the water pushed out...
But what you can do is open a block drain and let the AF fill a small paper cup. Put this in the freezer and if it stays liquid it's OK., same with the manifolds....
You will have a LOT less trouble if you do it my way...no worries about the impeller not pulling in AF...no worries about the impeller running hot (BTW you need to put in a new one next spring)...and no worries about getting it fogged before the AF runs out.
Those winterizing kits....are really only good....for engines with closed cooling...and even then...not needed...you can still burn an impeller with them as you found out....
I took the one I bought...and turned it in to a flusher for my trailer brakes...and I also use it to winterize my pressure washer (I added a livewell pump to it to pressurize the water or AF that I put in)......