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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:32 pm 
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All series' of the MEFI ECMs have knock sensor feedback, and a 3-dimensional lookup table for the spark advance, so I'm not sure where your info is coming from. All carbureted, electronic ignition based marine engines have a simple spark advance table that is only based on RPM, not engine load, and will happily blow apart the ring lands on the pistons all day long if preignition occurs.
I'm glad you intend to keep the by-gone days of carburetors alive, just please don't try to spout off your opinion that EFI is no better as fact. There are people that read this forum for valid information, and it would be a disservice to them to think their best solution to a minuscule problem is to rip off the EFI and slap on a carburetor instead. Carburetors have only one advantage over EFI; simplicity. Even so, there are so many people out there that purchase remanufactured carburetors instead of spending $30 on a rebuild kit that it's silly.
Reminds me of the people that would pull all the EFI stuff from their Crossfire Injection Corvettes and F-bodies to make way for inferior performance. I guess those that don't want to take the time to learn how an EFI system works should probably go that route, because hey, spending $600 to convert it to a carb is much better than spending an hours' time reading about theory and $19.99 on a coolant temperature sensor that was causing over-rich running conditions.
Jd, greater efficiency means greater horsepower. I think you have the term "efficiency" confused with "fuel economy". But hey, if you too prefer less horsepower, then go for it man! :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:39 pm 
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so I'm not sure where your info is coming from


All his info comes from one of the following: Biker Bar BS sessions, magazines, internet google searches, two of his 3 friends that
build crap in their roach infested garages, or it's just made up off the top of his head.
Thanks for the real info Matt, good to finally see some actual experienced based info posted here, rather than crap.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:30 pm 
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Carb engines have knock sensors as part of the ignition system on marine engines since the late 90s. :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:07 pm 
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Let's go in the yard and fight

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:09 am 
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Jdpber wrote:
Let's go in the yard and fight

Nah, just shuffle over to the "Babe of the day" post, or the "Boating pics" post. Make ya forget all about MFI ECM E=MC2 ABCDEFG, whatevers....Happy 4th!!! Lets get on the water and all have a collective beer.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:41 am 
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Lets get on the water and all have a collective beer.


I wish!!!! I'm boating on Lake Monroe to watch the big fireworks later. No alcohol for me it's going to be at least one patrol boat per 10 regular boats.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:41 pm 
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ric wrote:
NiagaraChillin wrote:
Lets get on the water and all have a collective beer.


I wish!!!! I'm boating on Lake Monroe to watch the big fireworks later. No alcohol for me it's going to be at least one patrol boat per 10 regular boats.

And with all those boats out at night, you no doubt wanted your wits firing on all cylinders. We skipped the alcohol all together last night, and I'm glad we did. Having extra hands for the boat hook and spotting turned out to be pretty useful.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:09 pm 
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I was using Navionic's on my cell to navigate, it's very accurate and told me where all the non-lighted marker poles where on the lake. Without that it would have been a nightmare.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:21 am 
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Didn't run the boat for the whole winter. Put it in the water this past weekend, turned the key, and it started. Damn this fuel injection sucks big time! I wanted to spend at least a few minutes pumping the throttle, playing with the idle, and dealing with vapor lock in the 98 degree temps we've had lately.

Thanks, Capn'. This site is more for entertainment anyway; the other site is much more knowledgeable.

Off to find a knock sensor for my cousin's carbureted marine engine... I should find it at NAPA right beside the 1981 VW Rabbit diesel spark plugs and cans of red & white striped safety paint... Oh, what's this? I found some NOS OEM genuine GM blinker fluid for my friend's 1983 Corvette! Score!!!


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