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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:40 pm 
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Four Winns H180 Horizon 2008, low hours, Volvo Penta 3.0 135hp motor. Not winterized, engine froze in my garage last winter (Garage has never frozen before). Freeze plugs popped out and replaced. Took it out for about half an hour to see if any water was leaking. Drops of water are leaking from a hairline crack. See pic.

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I swear those drip lines were there last summer though.

There is no obvious foam or cloudiness to the oil after running a half hour under power and the amount of water weeping was quite minimal.

Do I need a new/rebuilt engine?
Is there a risk to running it in this condition?

THANK YOU for your experienced advice!


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:36 pm 
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This is a hard question to answer, since there is really no way to know exactly where it cracked. You can keep running it, check the oil, remove the oil cap and look inside the valve cover for milky deposits. If you see none, I might just dug out those cracks a bit and fill them with JB Weld or a similar epoxy filler. People have done it and run engines that froze for years.

I had a bad overheat last year and thought the engine was for sure done. But I did a compression test and it was the same as 3 years ago. I ran it on the hose, no water in the oil. Ran it in the bay numerous times, no overheating or water in the oil. So far do good.
In your case I'd figure on always draining it heated garage or not.
I winterize mine about a week or 2 after it comes out in Oct because you get busy and the weather can change fast.
Next time get an outboard...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:39 am 
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If you don't have water in your oil and no signs of overheating, you probably dodged a bullet... marine-tex that crack and run it till it quits. Also, winterize next time. I'm sure the super cold winter we had caught a lot of folks by surprise. Everyone around here found out real quick this spring which mechanics were actually doing what they charged for and which ones cut corners...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:18 am 
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Dang... my very first boat (A 19' Larson cuddy) had a cracked block, and the 3.0l engine too. It cracked in the same exact spot too, except my cracks were much more severe.

With that being said, I marine-texed the cracks and was able to continue boating. The 3.0l is a solid, reliable, rugged little 4-cylinder. I overheated that boat, detonated a spark plug somehow, drove it around with a patched up cracked block - and the thing NEVER skipped a beat.

With cracks that minor, definitely patch it up. Oh, and ALWAYS at least drain the block and manifolds even if its in indoor storage. Lesson learned, could've been much more expensive.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:25 am 
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PS speaking of cracks, I thought for sure my exhaust manifolds cracked....why...well after the boat overheated and died 50 yards from a private beach...while waiting for Tow Boat US, I took out the IR temp gun I keep on board and measured how hot they were. 375* F that's right, 375. When I got the boat home I filled em up with acetone (a good test for leaks because it has less surface tension than water) and NO cracks, no leaks.
Gotta love old school cast iron....

From that little incident I would up replacing the exhaust flappers (vaporized lol) and changed the water tube gaskets in the drive as a precaution. And like I said, check that little hose...from the transom mount...to the p/s cooler...every season.....

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