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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:01 am 
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Hello,
I have a problem to find the right lower exhaust hoses for my 1995 4.3GL Cobra.
The original part no. are OMC 913591, 0913591 then replaced by 3852741 and its now replaced by 3863450. The hoses 3852741 and 3863450 have a inner diameter of 3 1/2 inches which is too large to fit on the elbows of my boat. The elbows have the part number 3854874.

Does anyone has some ideas about my problem or does anyone know the right part numbers.
The ones from Sierra (part no. 18-2780-1) and GLM (part no. 89222) won't fit. I already tried them... .


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:46 am 
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I have a 1988 4.3 V6 Cobra. It was originally equipped with the OMC one piece V6 manifolds which have long since become no longer available. In ‘17 I had to do a top end engine overhaul (re-manufactured cylinder heads etc) and was also due for new exhaust since in salt water you should replace every 5-7 years due to corrosion. I started researching the parts needed for this...I bought aftermarket Barr Marine manifolds and elbows; and needed to buy Volvo Penta 90* aluminum exhaust pipes that adapt the 4” elbow exit to the 3.5” Y pipe, including the Volvo Penta hoses which fit the old OMC Y pipe perfectly. Keep in mind that from 1994-1998 OMC and Volvo had a joint venture and they used many if not all of the same parts. So all the VP stuff which is still available should fit the OMC engine of the same model year. Some parts listed as OMC as unavailable are still available from VP. What’s confusing me is that the 3.5” inner diameter hoses should fit your Y pipe. Can you post up pix of what you have? Later on when I’m on my desktop I can check the VP parts #s I used.

after perusing several VP parts diagrams I have found 2 numbers for those lower hoses:
385741, replaced by 3863450

the OMC #s for your year are the same except it does not say replaced by 3863450

In either case it should not matter, the Y pipe diameter is 3.5".


here's my conversion....if you look at parts diagrams there is one difference, the aluminum 90* pipe that connects the upper hoses from the exhaust elbow to the lower hoses changed, the later model pipe (what I used) is a made with a steeper angle, which I believe was needed when they went to the Vortec engines, (1996) which due to camshaft specs had a tendency to pull water back up the exhaust than the pre-Vortec (which is probably what you have, you can tell by the # of bolts that hold down the intake, for the pre-Vortec it is 12 bolts, for Vortec it is 8 bolts. They also added a pair of one way check valves in the elbows to prevent vacuum in the exhaust from pulling water back up. But with the pre-vortec engines these are not needed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3a527i10hyq24 ... n.jpg?dl=0

Just thought of something...I used the VP hoses for upper (from the exhaust elbow 4" to the aluminum elbow, then from the bottom of the alu elbow 3.5" to the Y pipe) and lower hoses and they were marked as far as which way they go on that aluminum elbow, I can't recall of both the upper and lower hoses are marked that way, but for sure the upper hoses were. Right now the boat is covered up for winter still so can't check. The upper hoses had a pictogram showing which end goes on the side with the aluminum 90* elbow.

After fitting everything up it all fit right, no leaks, used it for a month last year before it got too late in the season....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:40 pm 
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Hello,
thanks a lot for your detailed answer.
My boat is also still winterized and I can't get to it at the moment because of bans caused by the corona virus crisis.
But I am convinced that I have the same elbows like your new ones on your picture. They are looking similar.
Due to using the boat just in freshwater I have still no problems with corrosion, so the elbows are still the original ones.

If the y-pipe diameter and the elbow diameter is 3.5" it should fit.

I also checked out several v/p diagrams and I figured out the same like you. V/P replaced all older part numbers by 3863450.
Last season I ordered hoses from recmar (RM3863450, 3rd party) and they did not fit at all. On one side they were too large.

As soon as I have the chance to get to the boat I'll take some pics for comparison with yours. For sure I let know.
It might take some weeks, depending on how long it needs to stem the f... virus.

Thanks a lot, stay safe and healthy.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:45 am 
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I’ll probably be taking the cover off in a few weeks as well. I’ll be able to take closer pics then. The V/P hoses fit the OMC Y pipe perfect.

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