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Author:  Cincy Aquaholic [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  FW Winns Trailers
I'm curious to know how other FW's owners feel about their trailers? This is the second FW I've owned and I'm having many of the same issues as my previous one which was a '96. I'll preface this by saying my '06 already has 180 hours on it so I use it and trailer it alot.

Ok, here's my first gripe. The carpeted fender bunks (if that's what they are) have come off. Those self drilling screws just don't hold. Apparently, they cause the sheet metal to corrode and the screws pull out. This has already happened on my '06.

My second, the guide bunks are supported by weak metal and bend easy. I'm pretty good about loading and unloading but occassionaly the wind will blow me into one and the next thing I know, its bent.

Brake lines mounts coming off. Pathetic double sided tape to hold them on?? Geez.

Any thoughts? Love my boat but not my trailer. I won't even mention the blowouts on the junk tires.
Author:  mkperceptions [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:45 pm ]
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I second the stupid stickytape brakeline holders, what a cheesy idea. I dont have many hours on my trailer yet and it is a 07 but the trailer even tho better than a shorelander definately needs some love to dial in. And who in the world thought that a plastic license plate holder was a good idea? DUMB
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:57 pm ]
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Txjole will be along shortly to confirm what pieces of crap these trailers are :).

I dunno. I agree that the brake line "brackets" are stupid, cheap, inexcusable cop-outs. The side guide brackets do bend too easily, however I've seen the same on several other makes, including the trailers under several Cobalts. Mine are bent too. I don't know how the side bunks could come off, though, mine are bolted (maybe I'm misunderstanding that one).

The Carlyle tires are definitely junk, which is why the first thing I did after taking delivery was swap them with my friendly neighborhood Goodyear dealer - but you shouldn't have to do that. On the other hand, there are very few boat trailers that *don't* come with Carlyles standard. I'm not sure I've ever seen a license plate bracket that wasn't plastic, and I don't see anything wrong with that.
Author:  mkperceptions [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:22 pm ]
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mike I think he was refering to the carpet that is on the inside of the wheel fenders.
Author:  jvalich [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:31 pm ]
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Okay, I hated Carlisle tires too, but have re-adjusted my opinion. I just pulled my 288 Vista to and from Myrtle Beach from Tampa(~1200 miles RT) last week on 6 245/75R16 Carlisle tires that are over a year old. In fact, one of them has a nail in the side wall and was patched. Another has two patches. No issues.

Previously my trailer had (one stolen) 6 Good Year Marathons. I had issues with them. My friend has a Formula 27PC sitting on his trailer with 6 GY Marathons and has replaced 3 over the last year from side wall failures.

The opinion I have developed is "all trailer tires suck equally". I'm anal about the pressure and at every stop shoot the temps on the hubs and side walls. All are never overly warm.
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:23 pm ]
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mkperceptions wrote:
mike I think he was refering to the carpet that is on the inside of the wheel fenders.


Oh, OK. That's one I hadn't heard of, I'll have to keep an eye on that.
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:26 pm ]
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Just 4 weeks ago as we were cleaning up the boat in the parking area by the ramp at the end of the day, a guy came over asking about my trailer tires. He said he'd had nothing but trouble with his Carlisles, so he switched to Marathons. In the short time he's had them, he said 3 of them have failed. So I don't know what's going on with the tire situation. Flat tires on a boat trailer concern me greatly, especially since so much of my towing is done at night.
Author:  mkperceptions [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:34 pm ]
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mike are the michellins radials or regular bias ply
Author:  Rob [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:22 pm ]
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I to would like to see a suggestion re the hydraulic lines on the trailer. The keepers are starting to fall of on the '07 trailer here too.
Author:  mkperceptions [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:31 pm ]
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yea i dont know what I'm going to do. I am sure it will be some kind of bracket and sheet metal screw BLAH
Author:  1NiceHarley [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:57 pm ]
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Wow I must have a good trailer. Mine is a 94 and the trailer is in great shap except for the surge brake actuator, which a rubber line broke and the actuator rusted (previous owner) but everything else is still in Great condition.
Author:  mkperceptions [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:56 pm ]
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I really thought 4 winns would have built a little better trailer with maybe some welded in supports for the lines
Author:  teker [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:28 pm ]
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I am in the process of refurbishing my '99 trailer right now. I was having some bake problems so I replaced the brakes with 4 new galvinized free backing clusters. This was cheaper than the parts(shoes , wheel cycls. and hardware) to rebuild them. New SS brake lines. The old steel ones were a mess. New carpet on the bunks. I replaced the inside of the fender wells with metal welded on. Removed the guides and replaced them with square tubing braced and reinforced on the unde side. New Imron paint with stripes and new logos. I will try and put some pictures up when it is finished.
I think FW should stick to boats and buy there trailes from a manifacturer.

My Carlisle tires failed after 5 years. I replace them with GY Marithons we'll see how they hold up.
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:33 pm ]
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To be fair, many would say that if you got 5 years out of a set of boat trailer tires, they didn't fail.
Author:  Cincy Aquaholic [ Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:01 am ]
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Boy, I opened a can of worms! Its unfortunate, but I'm glad I'm not alone.

Yeah, Mike, I was refering to the carpeted wood pieces inside of the fenders. Take a peak under there and you see self-boring type screws. Mine have completely pulled out on one side from the sheet metal of the fender and I found the whole piece floating in the water at the ramp!! I either have to use bigger screws or try to bolt them.
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