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 Post subject: Inside Wear on Tires
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:54 pm 
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When arriving home from the lake this past weekend I noticed on the rear axle both tires are wearing out fast. Even the front axle is starting to wear but not near as bad as the rear. The tires are at max psi. Any suggestions on what the problem is?

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:21 pm 
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To much weight towards the rear of the trailer. Is the bow of your boat touching the bow stop near the winch? Another sure sign of too much weight at the rear, is a little fishtailin' of the trailer at speed.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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No fish tailing and loaded all the way to the bow stop.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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Hmmm, does your trailer "look" level? both tires at same height? There was a poster here last year that had a similiar problem, and it turned out his forward leafspring shackle had flipped, resulting in one axle being a few inches lower, and uneven wear on tires.

If that ain't it either, I dunno...full tank of gas and supplies at rear of boat, making it heavy?

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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So it's the insides on both rear tires, or the inside on one and outside on the other?

Though unlikely, it could simply be a defective axle. It has happened. If you have a good trailer shop nearby (doesn't need to be a boat place), it might be worth having them look at it.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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It is the insides of both rear tires.

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Check to be sure the wheel bearings are properly loaded (spindle nuts properly tightened). If so, you may have a more serious issue with the trailer.

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I'm with you on this Mike - either the wheel bearings are loose, the axle bent, or a manufacturing problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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StrokerAce wrote:
It is the insides of both rear tires.

My bad, I misread it as your rear tires were wearing out all around, not just the inside. Mike and Aussie are right.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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I crawled underneath to look at the axle and discovered that oil from the hubs is leaking on the inside of the wheel. So with this new info I am thinking it probably is the bearings and along with the seals.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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230 Mike wrote:
Check to be sure the wheel bearings are properly loaded (spindle nuts properly tightened). If so, you may have a more serious issue with the trailer.

Mike is there a specific torque setting for this?

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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Well you don't have the same hubs as me, so the procedure may be a bit different. But generally speaking, with any wheel bearing, you need to adjust the tightness with the wheel off the ground. Tighten the spindle nut with a wrench but just to "barely snug." It's important to spin the hub as you tighten; otherwise you aren't getting the bearings snugged all the way in. Then, stop the spinning and back the nut off to the first spot where the cotter pin can go in (yes, the nut will actually be loose). Some spindles use bendable tabs instead of cotter pins etc., but the idea is the same. When it's all done, you can probably grab hold of the tire and shake it, and just barely feel a bit of play in the bearings. Any more than that is too much (too loose). If you don't feel even the slightest amount of play, you may need to back the nut off one more position. Wheel bearings expand under heat & load, so too tight is worse than too loose.

If you have hub lube leaking from the inside seal, you probably need to replace the seal. That could be another indication that your bearings have been too loose, which would cause your tires to drag down the road instead of rolling freely. Looking at all this from a different angle, it's possible that enough of your hub oil has leaked out that your bearings are ruined, and that in turn is causing the tire wear.

You just have to play detective a little with all this. If for any reason you have to replace a wheel bearing, be sure to replace the race (bearing cup) that goes with it too - each bearing has a race that it runs inside of, and the two of them wear in together. Replacing a bearing without replacing the race can cause the new bearing to fail prematurely. A race driver set can be a real handy thing to have, like this one (but they're available everywhere for about the same money):

http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-b ... 95853.html

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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Mine did same thing and I asked my tire guy about it...he said its a combo of things....heavy load, brakes on rear axle and the biggie....my wheels had not been balanced.

Its nothing to panic about and common. When you replace tires make sure they balance them. The bearing grease leak is also common since they use the oil bath system with synthetic oil. My mechanic said to replace synthetic oil with standard gear lube oil..no synthetic...have had no leak since.

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Also consider how far you tow..many only tow short distances to lake...I have over 150 miles each trip to nerest lake pluse occasional'500 mile trip.

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 Post subject: Re: Inside Wear on Tires
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I usually tow around a 50-60 mile round trip with the occasional 250 mile trip.

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