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| Author: | lindeman23 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Yesterday I started working on getting my trailer brakes fixed on my Four Winns Trailer. I was hoping to get away with just bleeding them but as I dug into a little bit the bleeder valve was completely frozen. I ended up taking the drum off to find out the shoes were almost complete worn and that they were wearing unevenly. I took the wheel cylinder off and it was completely filled with rust/gunk. I've come to the conclusion that I should just replace everything so I know I wont have any problems in the future. I need a new master cylinder, brake shoes, wheel cylinders, and actuator (not sure if thats what its called). I haven't had any luck finding my manual. Where would be a good place to start as far as finding the right parts. I dont have part numbers or brands. Thanks in advance! |
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| Author: | Aussie_Horizon_190 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
I have used Champion Trailers for parts in the past - no probs at all - great delivery even to the other side of the world! http://www.championtrailers.com Also check out e-trailer - these guys are really switched on and have some great instructional videos on how to do this sort of stuff. Prices are pretty good as well. http://www.etrailer.com |
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| Author: | lindeman23 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Will either of those companies know what I am talking about even though I dont have part numbers? |
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| Author: | Aussie_Horizon_190 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Yep - just give them the details of the trailer - there are not that many variations! FW always seem to use regular off the shelf components which is nice. |
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| Author: | lindeman23 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Aussie_Horizon_190 wrote: Yep - just give them the details of the trailer - there are not that many variations! FW always seem to use regular off the shelf components which is nice. That is great to hear, I was really worried when I couldn't find my manual. I am a little apprehensive about calling the dealership as the prices always seem to be really high. Thanks again. |
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| Author: | EvilZ [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
As Aussie said, Champion is pretty good. You can also search for trailer shops in your area that can either do the work or sell you the parts. |
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| Author: | lindeman23 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Is the Four Winns trailer made by champion? |
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| Author: | EvilZ [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
As I understand it, they make the frames, but not all the parts. For example, the actuator on mine is a Titan DICO, the brakes are Kodiaks, etc.... |
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| Author: | Aussie_Horizon_190 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Yep, FW make the frames only. My disc brakes and actuator are from Tie Down Engineering... so it seems to vary by year. |
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| Author: | LouC [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Drum brake clusters are a standard item, they come in 10" and 12" drum diameter sizes, I have 10" units on my trailer and I usually replace them about every 5 years. Champion's prices are about the best, you can get a pair of the 10" clusters for about 110 or so, I put a little syn caliper grease under the dust boot to keep out water and put OMC triple guard grease on the threads of the adjuster to keep it from freezing up. |
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| Author: | lindeman23 [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Thank you guys for your help, I ended up getting all my parts online for $270 vs. $415 from the dealer. |
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| Author: | LouC [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
Sounds good, make sure you flush the system out well and bleed it if the wheel cylinders were bad, I'd try flushing out the lines before you hook up the new actuator and wheel cylinders, you don't want to force any crud in there. I have found that it's good to bleed marine systems every few years to get rid of moisture which can cause corrosion and that makes the wheel cylinders seize up. Disc brakes are supposed to be better, but if you put a bit of syn caliper grease under the dust boot on the wheel cylinder, and put a good marine grease on the threads of the adjuster, esp in freshwater they should last a reasonably long time. |
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| Author: | lindeman23 [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
LouC wrote: Sounds good, make sure you flush the system out well and bleed it if the wheel cylinders were bad, I'd try flushing out the lines before you hook up the new actuator and wheel cylinders, you don't want to force any crud in there. I have found that it's good to bleed marine systems every few years to get rid of moisture which can cause corrosion and that makes the wheel cylinders seize up. Disc brakes are supposed to be better, but if you put a bit of syn caliper grease under the dust boot on the wheel cylinder, and put a good marine grease on the threads of the adjuster, esp in freshwater they should last a reasonably long time. Thanks for the tips, I ended up buying a whole new brake coupler (has the master cylinder and tongue all assembled) and new wheel backing which has all the shoes, wheels cylinders put together. The only thing that wont be new is the drums and the brake lines. It was cheaper to buy everything assembled than try and piece together all the parts. I will def blow out all the lines, I'm just hoping the brake lines dont need to be replaced. |
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| Author: | LouC [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
My old Load Rite did not have brakes when I got this boat, I had to run the stainless lines through the tongue and in the frame rail, it takes some time but not that bad, you have a single axle so only one set of brakes. If the lines are rusted, replace em. I got the whole kit from Champion Trailers, drums, brake clusters, actuator, and lines for about 400 or so back in 04... |
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| Author: | 230 Mike [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: FW trailer brake replacement parts needed. |
If I was replacing that many parts, including the actuator, I think I'd consider changing to discs. |
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