Haier TV

acguy · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:10 pm

Anyone ever put this tv on their boat. I have read they are basically a 12V tv. I have ordered this one and am trying to decide if I should wire it directly to 12V. I have reservations because of the fluctuation in the voltage using 12v. It also has a built in dvd. I am going to hang it in the cabin on the wall where the head is.

Just looking for some thoughts

http://www.haieramerica.com/electronics/televisions/led-tv/19-led-hdtv-dvd-combo-lec19b1320

firecadet613 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:05 pm

I mounted a 22" Insignia from Best Buy and direct wired to 12V.

It's a 120V TV but had an external mounted inverter in the power cord which converted it to 12V. I have had no issues, except now Insignia's have internal inverters.

acguy · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:10 pm

Joe
How did the 22" fit, do you find it to be the right size? You got pics?

Cap'n Morgan · **Posted:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:47 pm

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6463

powelcrazy's 22" mounted above the midcabin on his 248.

firecadet613 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:04 pm

I was mistaken, its a 19"

Take a piece of cardboard and cut it out to the dimensions to see what size works best. We decided a 19" would be a better fit than a 22". It went on the side of the heads, as shown in the pics below. Get a high quality mount, I chose the Sanus brand.

acguy · **Posted:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:28 pm

Thanks Fire

That's the pic I was looking for. I am going to stick with the 19". After all a 248 is not a yacht!!!

firecadet613 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:12 pm

Good to hear it helped Mike.

I made a cut out to the 22" dimensions, and then trimmed it to the 19" so we could compare back to back. I feel placement on the side of the head works best.

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:31 pm

Remember, boats and cars don't provide 12v. They provide "around" 12v, usually more like 13.5v when running and then sometimes as low as 11.5v when on batteries alone. Some devices using a 12v supply cannot properly tolerate the voltage changes, let alone spikes. Be sure to get something that acknowledges being suitable for use in a vehicle or portable situations. Or use a DC-DC regulator that can safely provide exactly the voltage the device requires.

firecadet613 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:46 pm

Good point Bill. IIRC, the Insignia will work on anything between 11-14 volts.

ric · **Posted:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:50 pm

That haier is expensive. I picked up a 22" 1080p RCA LED LCD for $150 on sale 2 months ago for the boat. Yes, I use a TV on an 18ft bowrider. Draws only 40 watts and the smallest inverter made runs it for hours, or at least til the game is over.

acguy · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:54 pm

So after much deliberation and sleepless nights.....The tv I originally ordered is on back order, and I glad!
This is now the direction I am going

http://www.toshiba.ca/web/product.grp?lg=en&section=2&group=6&product=11370&category=

I am going to do it the proper way instead of trying to find more shortcuts. I going to mount an inverter next to the charger and hang the tv on the head wall.

Will post some pics when I decide to do the project. If the weather stays warm up here in the north this will be sooner than later seeing as if there is no snow it's kind of hard to go snowmobiling!!!!

wkearney99 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:59 pm

I went with a TV like that one also. But I've never gotten around to hooking up an inverter for it. More often than not any time we're likely to watch something on it we're on shore power. I have a 400w inverter I keep handy just in case, but as yet it's still unused.

Bear in mind you'll need an inverter that has enough wattage to support the startup current the TV will need. This is often higher than the consumption wattage listed. I discovered that with another set. It was listed as needing 50W, but a 60W inverter didn't have enough wattage to get it started. I had to upgrade to a 100W inverter in order to get the TV to power up. I never got around to hooking up an ammeter to measure what it actually required.

ric · **Posted:** Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:10 pm

100w inverters are around $10. An inverter only draws as many watts plus around 10% that you're using. If you're going to mount one in a boat, I'd get something decently sized to run other appliances. A 400w will run most things and they are still very cheap.

A TV that draws 40 watts will run on a standard 75 amp hour deep cycle for around 10 hours til the battery reaches 50% and it's time for a charge. If you're charging off the boat alternator... it won't fully recharge forever.

If you're smart and purchase an AGM deep cycle battery to run the inverter.. Like an Optima Blue Marine 75 amp hour deep cycle.. They are good to around 80% discharge and fully charge in 2-3 hours, not all day like a lead acid. They can be had for around $200. TV runtime @ 40 watts? 17 hours.

Really, what it comes down to is do the math. Add up all your watts used. How long do you watch TV for each day? What else do you use? Radio? Does it have an AMP or is it just a head unit? A standard agm deepcycle 75amp/hr battery can easily last all weekend with LED lighting and modern electronics. You gotta figure you're only going to be using most of the electronics at night anyways.

Average anchor light = 10w (for 2mi vis). LED anchor light = 1w. The difference is 10 amps of draw for all night or 2.

Lets say you use 4 hours of power past sunset til you sleep (6pm to 10pm) and I'll be power greedy using modern electronics.
LED LCD TV 55w includes inverter overhead = 18 amps
Small LED mood lighting.. 1 amp
Small fan to move some air? 4 amps
Blender to make sexytime drinks? 1 amp?

25 amps used (with anchor light) at night out of an available 60 amps from a $200 AGM 75a/h deep cycle til the day time when you motor and it recharges.

So yes I'm bored but in otherwords...

Don't worry about watching TV and the battery going dead. If you have a good "house" battery... ie.. second battery.. you'd have to run some serious crap for hours to drain it.. like A/C. If you have A/C and want to run it all night.. don't throw more batteries at it that's dumb. Get:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/pro ... specs.aspx
50-60db. About as loud as a conversation between two people. To get an idea.. just sit inside your boat and close the hatch. Have two friends talk outside on the swim deck in normal inside conversation tone. That's what you'll hear. You won't hear it over the A/C. The days of a generator waking up the neighborhood are gone.

Paul I. · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:41 am

If you're worried about 12V power, I would do one of 2 thing. Wire it directly to the DC panel OR the battery. If to the battery, make sure it's fused. I would use #12 tinned wire for it. I would not wire it to any thing else. If you do, when the other device turns on, you will have a voltage drop. OR that wire may not be heavy enough, again a drop

BILL is right!! It is around 12 volts, but remember too, that the engineers know this and have taken this into account. If you read the spes on most 12v devises. There rated at 11 to 14 volts dc. In this case, I did look them up, it just shows 12v only.

I would stick to a 12v TV. As Ric said, inverters will use at lest 10% if not more just to power them selves.

I would have to agree with Ric on the AMG batterys. AMG batterys can be used as a starting & deep cycle. Unlike a dual battery, this will give the full power of each. Mine are group 24 in size, 880CCA with 65 amp hrs. with a 4yr replacement warrenty. Yes, the cost is about $200.00, but I don't worry about power when I an out in the hook or at anchor any more. Let me add, since I added, these batterys and led lighting all around.

ric · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:15 pm

I picked up a "refurbished" East Penn/Deka AGM dual purpose group 24 for $35 for my H180. 79 amp hour. There is nothing I can do on my boat to run that battery dead on a day/evening on the lake and it can run my auto bilge pump for a few weeks if it rained every day. No need for a second battery.

I have considered a solar charger since it is getting colder and I don't use the boat daily to keep it topped off

http://batterytender.com/solar/5-watt-solar-panel.html

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