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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:21 pm 
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Exactly ... on that one.

If you go into a "liquidation" sale withiout knowing your prices, well, that's not the wisest move.

I kept stopping into our Circuit City until the actual price of the Canon 40D went to less than the used ones that were on Craigslist or ebay. Got the last one.

Unfortunately, there are no Boater's World stores around here.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:39 pm 
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waytooslow wrote:
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Two Things:

1. This is really sad to see another big company fail due to our economy, it really is.

2. Have you seen a "liquidation sale"? Its an absolute joke! The liquidation company comes in, marks everything up to FULL MSRP, THEN they discount from there. Its such a bunch of crap. Anybody see how the Circuit City liquidation went down? 42LCD TV's, liquidation priced HIGHER than they were for sale prior to bankruptcy in the same store.


exactly - I had a bud who thought he got a good deal on a large LCD till he researched online... smoke was coming out his ears, really.



Again, you got to be an educated shopper when going into a 'sale'/liquidation. Know exactly what you want, and what is costs everywhere else, even used. Then you know you got a deal.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:42 pm 
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Well... I swung out there today to take a look and come up with a mental list to think about as the sale grows to 30%...

I actually ended up dealing a little and made out pretty well...

I picked up 125 feet of new chain for the windlass to add to my current 30 feet from Four Winns. It was on 'sale' for 3.50/foot - but I ended up paying for only 75 feet. So, I think I made out pretty well there.

And... yes - they even had a couple leftover Bombard inflatables. Bargain basement prices plus another 10%. I got them to deal a bit more on it and ended up with a Bombard 10 footer for less than anything remotely comparable that I was looking at. Way cheaper than even the Baltik's on eBay. I hardly found used inflatables on Craigslist for a better price.

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Sure, it's good a 'wood' floor - if you can call a semi-composite that. It seems well built and will definitely do the job for what we need only a few times a year.

And our little fellow, Yeager, approves!

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It's too bad for Boaters World. I much preferred them over West Marine. Plus, I always got a discount just for asking.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:23 am 
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Of course hanging around the corpse like jackals doesn't come without a price too. If everyone stands by waiting for the lowest possible price that keeps money out of circulation. The lack of circulating money is part of the problem. Granted, I'm speaking on a 'macro' scale, but don't be too greedy in seeking the "best" deals. People are losing their jobs, homes and daily life here.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:01 am 
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Of course hanging around the corpse like jackals doesn't come without a price too. If everyone stands by waiting for the lowest possible price that keeps money out of circulation. The lack of circulating money is part of the problem. Granted, I'm speaking on a 'macro' scale, but don't be too greedy in seeking the "best" deals. People are losing their jobs, homes and daily life here.


Isnt that the darn truth.

I am so tired of hearing from our customers "well, in todays economy..." Nonsense!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:47 am 
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Great pix of Yeager. We had Woodbridge for 4 years before having to put him down due to a prolapse issue. Nice looking dog!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:40 pm 
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aguyindallas wrote:
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Of course hanging around the corpse like jackals doesn't come without a price too. If everyone stands by waiting for the lowest possible price that keeps money out of circulation. The lack of circulating money is part of the problem. Granted, I'm speaking on a 'macro' scale, but don't be too greedy in seeking the "best" deals. People are losing their jobs, homes and daily life here.


Isnt that the darn truth.

I am so tired of hearing from our customers "well, in todays economy..." Nonsense!



Non sense?!?!?!?!? :?: Have you Not been watching,listening to the news?? Like it or not the economy IS BAD!! I think it sucks to because I too could be laid off in ??? What I don't understand then is that they keep saying "The banks need to loosen up credit" OK? 1st too much credit is why we're in this predicament i.e. buying houses they can't afford, 2nd you can GIVE all the credit you want, BUT when there are NO jobs for the people to work in to PAY BACK the credit what good does it do to Give the credit??? Every day there's 1200, 3500, 950, layoffs for the past 1 1/2 yr. People can't buy when they have NO means of support.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:44 pm 
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I think you may have misunderstood my statement.

When my customers say "well, in todays economy...", they are acting like they have a license to steal from businesses. I am in the #2 affected business of our economic crunch, the car business. I know all about it, trust me. Its a REAL problem. I am just sick of the excuses. We do not have credit problems in our store. Sure, they are a little more strict then they used to be, but they are really just crossing their T's and dotting their I's a little better. Trust me, I could be blown out of my position at the drop of a hat.

Point is...the common man needs to spend a little money (and I mean, just a little) to help get things going. Once the ball starts rolling, it becomes a snowball effect. It can go up almost as fast as it went down.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:51 pm 
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KSJ08 wrote:
Non sense?!?!?!?!? :?: Have you Not been watching,listening to the news??

That's part of the problem. They've been shouting fire in a crowded theatre for years now, all in the quest for ratings. TV news is utter crap and does not even come close to fully present the facts... of nearly anything, let alone the economy.

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Like it or not the economy IS BAD!! I think it sucks to because I too could be laid off in ??? What I don't understand then is that they keep saying "The banks need to loosen up credit" OK? 1st too much credit is why we're in this predicament i.e. buying houses they can't afford, 2nd you can GIVE all the credit you want, BUT when there are NO jobs for the people to work in to PAY BACK the credit what good does it do to Give the credit??? Every day there's 1200, 3500, 950, layoffs for the past 1 1/2 yr. People can't buy when they have NO means of support.


There's a BIG difference between personal and business credit. Personal credit, the mortgages and credit cards, has been troubled for a while now. But business credit is an entirely different thing. Lots of companies have seasonal fluctuations in their cash flow. During the off season it's not uncommon for those companies to borrow money to make payroll. Same deal with borrowing for large outlays of cash for expenditures like new offices (building, furniture, moving costs, etc). It's THAT sort of credit being jammed up that's causing a lot of problems. If the companies can't borrow then that's when personnel start getting laid off. But it's a vicious cycle, the more people you lay off the harder it is to maintain the business, which would make it hard to pay back loans. So the longer banks hold up the money supply the worse things can become.

THAT'S what they mean by credit crisis, not overextended idiots getting the McMansion foreclosed. Those people deserve their fate.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:22 pm 
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wkearney99 wrote:
KSJ08 wrote:
Non sense?!?!?!?!? :?: Have you Not been watching,listening to the news??

That's part of the problem. They've been shouting fire in a crowded theatre for years now, all in the quest for ratings. TV news is utter crap and does not even come close to fully present the facts... of nearly anything, let alone the economy.

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Like it or not the economy IS BAD!! I think it sucks to because I too could be laid off in ??? What I don't understand then is that they keep saying "The banks need to loosen up credit" OK? 1st too much credit is why we're in this predicament i.e. buying houses they can't afford, 2nd you can GIVE all the credit you want, BUT when there are NO jobs for the people to work in to PAY BACK the credit what good does it do to Give the credit??? Every day there's 1200, 3500, 950, layoffs for the past 1 1/2 yr. People can't buy when they have NO means of support.


There's a BIG difference between personal and business credit. Personal credit, the mortgages and credit cards, has been troubled for a while now. But business credit is an entirely different thing. Lots of companies have seasonal fluctuations in their cash flow. During the off season it's not uncommon for those companies to borrow money to make payroll. Same deal with borrowing for large outlays of cash for expenditures like new offices (building, furniture, moving costs, etc). It's THAT sort of credit being jammed up that's causing a lot of problems. If the companies can't borrow then that's when personnel start getting laid off. But it's a vicious cycle, the more people you lay off the harder it is to maintain the business, which would make it hard to pay back loans. So the longer banks hold up the money supply the worse things can become.

THAT'S what they mean by credit crisis, not overextended idiots getting the McMansion foreclosed. Those people deserve their fate.


Yes I understand that & yes the idiots who lied about their income to get the houses they can't afford, brokers who didn't check their facts, WALL ST. greed & NOT KNOWING what the hell they were doing packaging these loans are ALL to blame!!! Unfortunate for US RESPONSIBLE buyers :evil: AGAIN WE get To BAIL OUT the RICH as well as the POOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:25 pm 
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aguyindallas wrote:
I think you may have misunderstood my statement.

When my customers say "well, in todays economy...", they are acting like they have a license to steal from businesses. I am in the #2 affected business of our economic crunch, the car business. I know all about it, trust me. Its a REAL problem. I am just sick of the excuses. We do not have credit problems in our store. Sure, they are a little more strict then they used to be, but they are really just crossing their T's and dotting their I's a little better. Trust me, I could be blown out of my position at the drop of a hat.

Point is...the common man needs to spend a little money (and I mean, just a little) to help get things going. Once the ball starts rolling, it becomes a snowball effect. It can go up almost as fast as it went down.


Yes I did & I apologize for taking it the wrong way! :oops:
I'm SURE you get INUNDATED W/A$$holes who think you're ready to "give-away" cars because of what the hear. Problem is the Asian mfg aren't in no where near as much $$ trouble as US car mfg. Wonder why?????????
BTW I wish I had your size/version boat(just different color)

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Credit woes aside it does suck for Boaters World I do like our local store. I did stop by today today and I too think they raise the prices to lower them later. I am also in the market for an inflatable, they only had one which wasn't reduced much yet. It is an 8.5' AVON and they are still at 1599.00 for the thing, still pretty high.

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Credit woes aside it does suck for Boaters World I do like our local store. I did stop by today today and I too think they raise the prices to lower them later. I am also in the market for an inflatable, they only had one which wasn't reduced much yet. It is an 8.5' AVON and they are still at 1599.00 for the thing, still pretty high.



Circuit City did that & got caught & some kind of trouble for it! All they probably do is ask MSRP then put a certain % discount to make customer think they're getting a deal? All goes back to what ever language is on the $ "Let the buyer beware" I can say it just not spell it :oops: :oops: :oops:

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I spent some time today in BW. VERY busy and they had a guy holding a liquidation sign out front directing traffic and such. Lots of activity in the shoes and clothing area with people milling around without picking much up. I bought a bit of the 303 they had and a set of transom tie downs I needed. I'll be back once pricing drops to 30-50%. They have a TON of stock and it should take a while. They are shooting to be done in 11-14 weeks. The stores have NO pricing authority and can not make special deals according to the manager. Most everything was 10% off with trailer stuff already at 30%

All of the catalog inventory has been sent to the stores. The store in Grand Rapids just got 12 pallets of misc stuff to sell from the warehouse. I hope they are smart and give us regional appropriate merchandise. (We don't need charts and chips from the ocean areas and those don't need the great lakes...) Electronics are at 10% off and will be slow to move from that discount.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:25 pm 
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Might be a good time to pick up some Boat Buckles if anyone has been considering them. They're spendy and you don't see them on sale very often.

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