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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:54 pm 
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298VISTA2000 wrote:
Do the dealers save you that much?


It might depend on the item, but if those prices are representative of the usual annual maintenance items, I'd say they're fairly competitive. Frankly I just never think about the VP Store at ordering time.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:32 pm 
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Having just moved my boat from one lake to another lake and not having access to the Volvo parts dealer I had been using where my boat had been used, who had an excellent parts inventory. I searched for a Volvo parts dealer local to me and found one that carries a good supply of in-stock Volvo parts.
You can search for your local parts supplier here http://www.volvopenta.com/volvopenta/na/en-us/applications/dealer_locator/pages/dealer_locator.aspx.
Just make sure to select "Parts Stocking Dealers" on the right hand section of the page.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:46 pm 
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230 Mike wrote:
I agree with Lou on buying local, but there isn't anyone around here who sells Volvo stuff.



Hey Mike,
I just got some OEM Volvo parts from.

U.S. Boatworks, Inc.
930 Osage Ave.
Kansas City, KS 66105

I found them through Volo Penta dealer search. They had the parts I needed in stock and seem to have a good inventory of Volvo items.
The prices were a little less than through the Volvo Penta/iboats.com online store.

Drake

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:40 pm 
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Hi Drake, I don't remember ever seeing any of your posts - didn't know there were any other Perry boaters here! Thanks for the tip on Boatworks. I've seen their name mentioned but that seemed like a very odd location for a boat shop, so I've never pursued them. It's good to have another reliable source for parts.

What lake did you move your boat from?

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:50 pm 
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230 Mike wrote:
Hi Drake, I don't remember ever seeing any of your posts - didn't know there were any other Perry boaters here! Thanks for the tip on Boatworks. I've seen their name mentioned but that seemed like a very odd location for a boat shop, so I've never pursued them. It's good to have another reliable source for parts.

What lake did you move your boat from?


I was real surprised when I called them and they had all my parts in stock. The shop seems to be busy and the parts counter is well staffed.

We had a place down at LOTO that we sold last October and we just bought a lift and rented a slip at Perry.
Plan on looking for a retirement/permanent residence at LOTO in the next 3-5 years.

We have a '98 245 Sundowner. Swing by and say Hi.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:57 pm 
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Jay Bird wrote:

We have a '98 245 Sundowner. Swing by and say Hi.


We'll do.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:17 am 
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298VISTA2000 wrote:
For the last couple of years (not this year yet) I ordered directly from Volvo (http://www.volvopentastore.com/) because I didn't want the hassel of a middle-man. Does purchasing from a dealer give you better prices or something? For my Volvo Penta 5.0 GI the oil filter is $8.95 and fuel filter is $9.95. I do have to pay for shipping but I don't have any dealers near me. Do the dealers save you that much?


As I mentioned earlier, the VP list price in the UK is $21 and $24. excluding tax, just a "little bit" of a mark up over their US site prices ( + 133 to 140% ) . Pretty clear I think why they do not allow access to the website from outside the US.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:53 am 
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Graham, we see similar markups here in Australia. I think I was quoted something like $30 for the oil filter - it is just a standard small block chev oil filter you can buy anywhere for $7... seems quite a markup just to have Volvo printed on it! Like you, I tend to buy from the US and have it shipped to Oz - works out a lot cheaper this way.

In London this week - looks like good boating weather here - a bit cool, but fine!

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:53 am 
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298VISTA2000 wrote:
For the last couple of years (not this year yet) I ordered directly from Volvo (http://www.volvopentastore.com/) because I didn't want the hassel of a middle-man. Does purchasing from a dealer give you better prices or something? For my Volvo Penta 5.0 GI the oil filter is $8.95 and fuel filter is $9.95. I do have to pay for shipping but I don't have any dealers near me. Do the dealers save you that much?
That site you posted is a part of iboats working with volvo penta direct, They have recently teamed up to make buying volvo parts much easier to find online the first time around And also much better then going through a normal boat dealer ship that is not really 100% set up to handle a ton of parts calls/Emails everyday, For the most part some of the dealers that do online parts orders are just hoping to sale some of their extra basic parts they may have lying around in the back room, And they probably have one person, (Two if their lucky/Busy) Trying to do two jobs at once, One job is just trying to keep up with day to day normal job activities in house, Trying to get what the service techs need to move boats in and out of the service bays everyday, then at the same time they are trying to handle the walk in part shoppers, And some day to day phone calls, That right there is a full time job in it's self, Plus over time is needed sometimes just to try to keep up.

Now with all that normal everyday work going on they would be lucky to have any extra time in the day to get to a ton of email parts request going on at the sametime, The shop would half to higher another person just to try to keep up with that area of the parts, And more then likely they are not going to higher someone because they know they are not set up to do a full on online order parts store with a big warehouse full of parts with a team set up to handle a big volume of calls and emails.

Now keep in mind that there are some big manufactures out there that requires when the little dealer wants to buy parts direct from the manufacture there is a certain dollar amount that you have to go over in order to buy parts from them, And that makes it hard to do or get when someone wants a one off hard to find part that does not cost all that much, (That was just an example, It could be anything, Including filters if the little dealer was out of stock).

Also not to mention the little dealer does not have big open accounts with each vendor set up without getting permission from in house accounting to order a ton of parts without showing the in house accounting department the parts have already been paid for in advance, Or show them some kind of proof the parts they are about to order are for either a sevice boat, Stock parts, Or sold parts.

Now Places like iboats, Overtons, ect they are set up to order the parts you want before you even get off the phone with them, Because an online warehouse that just sales parts only are allowed to just order direct from say volvo/Merc, ect, And have it to you within a timely fashion, Because their accounts are so active everyday, Also because the computers are working with each other all the time just ordering and shipping part out.


Now as far as the normal service dealers goes for trying to get the parts for You/Everyone they would need to look up the parts, Go in the back room to see if they have it or not, And if they do not have it, Then if they remember they would put your order in the mix with their next in house parts order that they would need to do for the normal in house service supplies for normal day to day service, And then when they get some extra time they will ship them out to you.

So in a nutshell it makes the little sevice shops look bad because either they are not set up enough to compete like a warehouse that would be full of parts with a team ready to work and go pull your parts and get them out the door, Or in some cases they do not have easy access to just order the parts right away for you, And it takes a lot longer to get your stuff to you.

Well that's my two cents worth about all this. :|


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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:57 am 
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Boat Tech, you are correct in a lot of ways on this. Having a large web presence to sell anything, requires a dedicated team, and not all dealers are big enough to afford a dedicated team. If they need/want to unload some perhaps unique, or obsolete parts...eBay and the like are good for that. Afterall...its really a big garage sale on the web in a lot of ways.

I work for a large volume Acura dealer and I know we are growing our online parts sales as fast as possible. We are learning as we go. Still though....interestingly enough...the boat service business is NOTHING like the car service business. The boat business is unique in that it seems NOBODY is in a hurry to get anything done. All the way from the sales dept to the parts/service dept...everybody along the way is in absolutely no hurry to get things done. Its sort of like they often know they are one of the few, or in many cases...the only game in town, so things get done on the boat dealerships time frame, typically with very little regard for the customers wants/needs. The car business (again, from sales to service) is 100% opposite. We arent the only game in town and EVERYTHING is done at a super fast pace to keep customers happy. Ever complain to a boat dealer? The answer you get EVERYTIME is sorry, thats the best we can do. Ever complain to a auto service dealer? The answer you typically get is sorry, we are behind, but I will do my absolute best to get your car out of here, fixed properly ASAP.

Just two different worlds I guess.

Time to call MPE for my weekly disappointment in where my parts are at.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:08 am 
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aguyindallas wrote:
. Still though....interestingly enough...the boat service business is NOTHING like the car service business. The boat business is unique in that it seems NOBODY is in a hurry to get anything done. All the way from the sales dept to the parts/service dept...everybody along the way is in absolutely no hurry to get things done.
Just two different worlds I guess.



I know you could care less, but I will comment. You are 100% correct, in that automotive and the marine industry ARE two different worlds. I worked in automotive parts manufacturing for 16 years, and have been in the marine industry for 4 years. If you were to tell GM that you could not meet their deadline , you would lose the business, on the other hand, if you tell a boat builder that you can't meet their deadline, you get "well, what is the best you can do"
Things are beginining to change in the industry, but at a slower pace than consumers would like. It's like changing an entire culture, not easy to do overnite.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:13 am 
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Cap'n Morgan wrote:
aguyindallas wrote:
. Still though....interestingly enough...the boat service business is NOTHING like the car service business. The boat business is unique in that it seems NOBODY is in a hurry to get anything done. All the way from the sales dept to the parts/service dept...everybody along the way is in absolutely no hurry to get things done.
Just two different worlds I guess.



I know you could care less, but I will comment. You are 100% correct, in that automotive and the marine industry ARE two different worlds. I worked in automotive parts manufacturing for 16 years, and have been in the marine industry for 4 years. If you were to tell GM that you could not meet their deadline , you would lose the business, on the other hand, if you tell a boat builder that you can't meet their deadline, you get "well, what is the best you can do"
Things are beginining to change in the industry, but at a slower pace than consumers would like. It's like changing an entire culture, not easy to do overnite.



Yeah....I can see how the boat business WILL be forced to adapt to current times/business climate/customer culture...its a matter of time. It blows me away....but yes...in time I see it slowly changing.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:24 am 
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And finally I will add, in the marine industry, preferential treatment IS given to certain companies/businesses. For instance, if Hatteras needs parts by a certain date, because they will be launching/delivering a boat to a customer, there parts WILL be expedited, and the distributor that also has an order to ship same day, will have to wait. Happens everyday in the marine business. In fact we just pushed back a distributor order 3 days, to complete a Sea Ray order 2 days earlier than originally promised, just because they need it early. It does keep my job interesting I admit.

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 Post subject: Re: Marine Parts Express
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Just spoke to MPE...was told the same thing...will let me know when the parts ship via email. He said that they got a large order yesterday and hope mine will ship today....we will see.

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