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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:06 pm 
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I bought a new 2006 Horizon 240 in 2007 that is out of the 2 year FW warranty. I have an "Extended Protection" agreement from Volvo Penta that is good through 4/8/14. I would suppose that the Volvo Penta agreement is still in force. Anyone heard how Volvo is doing?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:06 pm 
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240 Joe wrote:
Anyone heard how Volvo is doing?


Yep....

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Engine manufacturer Volvo Penta reported a decrease in sales for the third quarter, but overall saw an increase in profits because of cost reductions. In its report, the company cited a weak demand for marine engines but a more stable environment for industrial engines. It also touted increased market share for Volvo Penta IPS, the manufacturer's pod drive propulsion system.

http://www.ibinews.com/ibinews/newsdesk ... inews.html

New Volvo Penta warranty extends coverage

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"With the current economic uncertainties, Volvo Penta believes that now is the right time to offer new boat owners the assurance that their Volvo Penta EFI engines are backed by industry-leading limited warranties for many years," said Bob Apple, senior vice president of sales and marketing, in a statement.


http://www.volvo.com/volvopenta/na/en-u ... 1&sl=en-gb

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:20 am 
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Someone stated that Reggie Fountain has done this numerous times.



Hopefully that "someone" was not one of the yahoo's on here.

Fountain to retain assets. 10/16/09

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:28 am 
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Cap'n Morgan wrote:
298VISTA2000 wrote:
Someone stated that Reggie Fountain has done this numerous times.



Hopefully that "someone" was not one of the yahoo's on here.



LOL. I wondered how long it would take for someone to pick up on my trolling for CSR members. Those guys are crazy and when it comes to conservative values, they are right of Genghis Kahn (which is ok by me). Just having fun with them and their cutthroat attitudes.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:20 am 
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Just having fun with them and their cutthroat attitudes.
That is the best explanation I have ever heard of them. I look/lurk too, but do not dare to sign up or post there, not for me.

Anyway...... back to the Chapt. 11 and a NEW UPDATE
(long, but an interesting read)
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In an interview with BYM News, Genmar boss Irwin Jacobs talks about his come back plans for the bankrupt boat builder.

Irwin Jacobs: It’s my plan to be the acquirer of all the [Genmar] assets. I’m in the process of doing that right now. I can’t speak other than what I believe, but I think you’ll see before the week is out; I plan to be the high bid, that’s my plan.

BYM News: Won’t you have an uphill struggle, once you acquire the assets, since boat sales are not exactly booming?

Irwin Jacobs: Well no they’re not, but I have great confidence in our companies, our people, our dealers; I can only tell you that this is not a turn around in five minutes situation, but we’ll have enough capital in there to put a lot of plans in place. The industry has changed for ever and we want to change with it. We’ve lowered our overheads, we’ve had to lay off a lot of people, but when it’s all said and done I have great faith in the industry and it will come back stronger than ever, some day down the road. In the meantime we have to manage our business in accordance with the industry.

BYM News: Will you be focussing on a particular type and range of boats?

Irwin Jacobs: We will be very aggressive in our entry level boat, all the way up to our large Marquis yachts and everything in between.

BYM News: Surely some boats must be selling better than others?

Irwin Jacobs: Positively, although I must tell you that I just received information from Statistical Surveys, they’re the third party people that do all the retail analysis of boats for the whole United States, and whilst we’ve been in bankruptcy for the last 90 days, we picked up 6% market share, where all our competitors were actually down. That was across the board in our total company.

http://www.bymnews.com/news/newsDetails.php?id=62259

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:53 pm 
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What would we do without ya cappy ....?

Thanks for all the proper info. Here-say and rumors kinda suck.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:19 pm 
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I was in the frozen tundra of Wisconsin this past weekend and we drove by the Carver Yachts factory and it looked like a ghost town. There were a couple unfinished hulls outside one of the buildings but other than that it looked like things have been down for a long time.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:10 pm 
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The judge overseeing the Genmar bankruptcy case last week granted the company's motion for extending its time period to reorganise under Chapter 11 bankruptcy laws. Judge Dennis D. O'Brien also ruled that the "Potential Stalking Horse" bidder can have a 20-day exclusivity period to submit his bid for the company. No other investors are allowed to bid for the assets. According to court documents, about 12 potential investors had expressed interested in acquiring all or part of Genmar's assets but Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin Capital Inc., the investment bank advising Genmar, narrowed that to one investor.


http://www.ibinews.com/ibinews/newsdesk ... inews.html
So it appears that "Irv the Liquidator" may end up owning 80% of Genmar if he is indeed the "Stalking Horse" bidder. Unfortunately it appears that all will not be final/approved until April of 2010. Too bad it has to drag on so long.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:53 am 
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Todays' latest. Jacob's is "OUT" as CEO of Genmar.

To all Dealers, Suppliers, and Employees: I would like to inform everyone of a recent management change at Genmar Holdings, Inc. (“Genmar”). Effective November 6, 2009, Irwin L. Jacobs no longer serves as the Chief Executive Officer (“CEO”) of Genmar. Mr. Jacobs began acquiring boat businesses that led to the formation of Genmar over 30 years ago. He has given a great deal to the organization and the industry and we extend our sincere appreciation to him for all that he has done.

Given the circumstances surrounding Genmar as it moves forward in the sale of the Company’s businesses and non-core assets, this change in Mr. Jacobs’ role was made in the best interest of all constituents. The separation will allow Mr. Jacobs to pursue his objectives relative to Genmar’s asset sale process in an effective and independent manner and eliminates potential conflicts of interest.

Since June 1, 2009, as I am sure most of you know, Genmar has been operating under the direction of Manchester Companies, Inc, (“Manchester”), a firm that was engaged as the Chief Restructuring Officer (“CRO”) as required under the Company’s senior secured DIP financing agreement. At that time the CRO was given the full authority generally vested in the chief executive officer role. An Office of the President also was established which included two representatives of Genmar and two representatives of Manchester. This organizational structure will continue going forward.

It has always been the intent of Genmar’s management to protect and promote the boat businesses, the brands, the employees, its dealers and loyal retail customers. These objectives will not change as Genmar moves forward.

Please understand that Genmar management, Manchester, our investment bankers and other professionals, are very diligently focused on completing the asset sale process as prudently as possible. In the meantime, we continue to build boats based on a good backlog of orders and to support our dealers as best as possible.

We want to thank you again for your continued patience and support. We believe that the direction of Genmar will be clearer in the next few weeks, allowing all of us to appropriately prepare for the upcoming 2010 boat selling season.

We will continue to communicate with you over the coming weeks as developments require.

Sincerely,

Roger R. Cloutier, II

President

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http://www.bymnews.com/news/newsDetails.php?id=62552

Another article with some more info.
http://www.twincities.com/ci_13748646?s ... ck_check=1

This is new.......
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A stalking horse bidder in the Genmar auction hasn't yet been chosen and the deadline for selecting one is Nov. 18, said Stephen Spencer, a director at Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin Capital Inc., which is advising Genmar in bankruptcy.

A source close to the process identified the potential stalking horse bidder as Platinum Equity, a Beverly Hills-based firm that buys distressed companies. Platinum Equity declined to comment.

http://www.startribune.com/business/69618622.html

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:44 am 
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Cap'n Morgan wrote:
This is new.......
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A source close to the process identified the potential stalking horse bidder as Platinum Equity, a Beverly Hills-based firm that buys distressed companies. Platinum Equity declined to comment.



Just great. FW is being bought by Edward Lewis (i.e. Pretty Woman). This comment is not to be taken as a joke either and, if true, I really feel for you guys who are under warranty.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:35 am 
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A little more from Roger today.........

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Genmar President Roger R. Cloutier sent a letter to Genmar dealers today saying that sale of its assets should be known by the middle of next week. He said that the company hopes to "consummate a mutually acceptable transaction very soon" with a potential investor.
"While our intentions for completing this work were initially planned for this week, we now are necessarily targeting the middle of next week and sooner if possible," he wrote. "I want to assure everyone there are no unusual issues or concerns, just a great deal of work to be done. I am confident that conclusions can be achieved fairly soon."



The suspense deepens...... :?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:40 am 
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Any of you "insiders" hear anything this week? I'm all worried now having just bought a new Four Winns.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:22 am 
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Liquefied wrote:
Any of you "insiders" hear anything this week? I'm all worried now having just bought a new Four Winns.


Four Winns is building 7 boats a day and is backlogged through jan and into feb.

Regardless of ownership (which will probably still be irwin jacobs in some form or fashion) - FW isn't going anywhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:35 am 
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LATEST UPDATE

From TOT.
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The stalking horse in the Genmar Holdings bankruptcy case has been identified as Project Boat Holdings LLC, an affiliate of Platinum Equity, a global acquisition firm based in Beverly Hills, Calif., according to court documents. The assets to be sold consist of those owned by the following: Genmar Holdings, Genmar Industries, Genmar IP, Genmar Michigan, Genmar Minnesota, Genmar Tennessee, Genmar Transportation and Wood Manufacturing. The acquired assets are primarily those used in the design, manufacture and sale of the following boats: Ranger, Stratos, Champion, Wellcraft, Four Winns, Glastron and Larson. The assets also include facilities in Flippin, Ark.; Cadillac, Mich.; and Murfreesboro, Tenn.

The purchase price is $55 million.

The sale does not include Carver, Marquis, Seaswirl, FinCraft, Hydra-Sports, Javelin and other brands. The sale also does not include the ownership of approximately 93 percent of VEC Technology.


From BI newsletter:
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Platinum Equity specializes in providing “divestiture solutions” to a diverse range of firms, including many global Fortune 500 companies, according to its Web site, http://www.platinumequity.com.

“We focus on business continuity as one of the most critical measures of a successful transition,” the company explains on its Web site. “We consider all of the stakeholders involved and take measures to ensure uninterrupted customer service, minimal employee uncertainty, and preservation of the seller's brand reputation. Our ability to maintain business continuity through transition is what allows us to pursue deals that pure financial buyers might forego.”

Platinum Equity also emphasizes that while it provides “strategic oversight,” a key part of its strategy involves creating an environment in which the “company management team operates independently, making decisions based on their knowledge of the market, customers, and competitors.”



Sooo..... I wonder if Irwin may buy a few of the brands not acquired by PBH LLC. ? Interesting development for sure, stay tuned more to come.......

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:41 pm 
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IBI News tracked down the traveling Irwin Jacobs and got this vague comment from him today.

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Jacobs said this morning that he will bid on the Glastron/Larson facilities in Little Falls, Minnesota, the Carver/Marquis facilities in Pulaski, Wisconsin, and the VEC manufacturing technology. "I won't tell you what else I am bidding for," he said. "But my bid will include those facilities."



The auction occurs on 1/7/10 and bids must be submitted by 1/4/10. A decision will be made (hopefully) by 1/20/10. So we will have to wait until next year to find out how this all pans out.

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