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Author: | Swansea [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Great Lakes water Levels |
Like everyone, I just pulled the boat out this past weekend, and the water levels in Georgian Bay have dropped again to the point where I could barely get the boat off the railway and into the water. Just this year the waterline has receded another 5 feet, on top of several feet in previous years. Next year, I'll have to put the dock and railway out even further just to have access. There are many theories as to why the levels across the entire Great Lakes system are dropping, ranging from climate change to dredging of the St. Clair River at Detroit - my favourite one from some northern Canadians is that the sneaky Americans are draining (stealing) water out of Lake Michigan in Chicago to feed into the Mississippi...! Here's a recent article talking about the impact on both commerical and recreational boating http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti ... n-roulette (P.S. 2.5 cm. = 1 inch) Anyone else having any trouble out there? |
Author: | NiagaraChillin [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
Yep, its down about 5 feet in the Lower Niagara River/Lake Ontario area too. I barely got my boat on the trailer last weekend. Had to back my trailer off the ramp into the rock/silt of the river bed to get the boat on. One theory here is that more water is being diverted for the power plants that line the river after Niagara Falls. |
Author: | 97_245_sd [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
I didn't have problems at the boat ramp but noticed it at the dock. My marina has stationary/fixed slips. It is always a little step down into my boat from the dock but noticably more so at the end of the season. |
Author: | RotaryRacer [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
I just bought a marina this spring in the UP of Michigan right on the St. Mary's river. We've been able to make due so far. We have had to turn away a few customers due to their boats drawing too much water. It looks like dredging may be in order. Not that we have the money for it....we may have to do it just to survive. We are officially 29" below the long term October average right now. We are equal to the all time low water level set in 1964. |
Author: | firecadet613 [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
It's down quite a bit on the south shore of Lake Michigan. Thankfully I had no issues. Lets pray for heavy snow over the winter! |
Author: | Flying Sushi [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
We took our boat out a few weeks ago... Lake Ontario/St Lawrence river is about 3' below normal at this time. We were concerned about getting boat off from lift but made it out.. If it goes down another 6" we will have a difficulty... Surprisingly the local ramp we use has a very long concrete bottom ramp so there were no issue but made us very concerned. |
Author: | Decision [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
After our boat was lifted out of the water yesterday and winterized, I used a depth pole to see what water depth we had in our boat well. We had 2' 9" of water. Wow that's low. The previous weekend we had 3' 3". I too hope the next 6 months bring an increase to our water levels. I'm glad we have sterndrives, at least we can raise them around the docks to help a bit with low water levels, but we can't really deal with water levels much lower. Mike. |
Author: | Winter Sux [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
Our lake (on the Trent Severn waterway) is maybe a couple inches lower than normal for this time of year. No worries for us. I did read that an upbound cargo ship ran aground this morning in the St. Lawrence near Prescott Ontario. No cause listed yet but I wouldn't rule out low water levels. John ![]() |
Author: | JeffLW [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
The Harbormaster in Charlevoix MI told me that the water level is down 11 inches from the spring level. He has a few slips that are almost unusable because of it. I had a little trouble getting the boat centered on the trailer when I pulled it out the last time. The trailer was tilting to the side because I had to back so far in that the tires where off the ramp cement. Would not have been so bad but all the idiots that power load create huge holes at the end of the cement. I did see that they had delivered more cement slabs for the ramp when I was there last. Not sure if they are replaceing some or maybe extending the ramp out into the lake more. |
Author: | Winter Sux [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
JeffLW,,,,lmao at power load. Those idiots get under my skin too ![]() John ![]() |
Author: | Jafo4U [ Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:20 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
Well it probably has to do with Nestle, The Chinese and those giant bladder barges going up and down the great lakes if you believe some of these articles I have run into. Also heard that Jesse Ventura did a show about this topic on his show Conspiracy Theory on trutv, sounds a bit far fetched to me but it's something worth looking into. http://www.examiner.com/article/sell-ch ... reat-lakes |
Author: | Swansea [ Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
So - here's an interesting perspective from a panelist on the US-Canada Joint Commission on Great Lakes Water Levels: Quote: Mr. Yuzyk points out that many residents along the shores of Lake Michigan are happy with water levels as they stand – and worry any increase could flood their area. “Yes, we can raise water levels on Michigan and Huron. The issue is that it has different implications on the U.S. and Canadian side,” he said. “On the Canadian side it helps out. On the U.S. side, which is highly sandy beaches – and that’s very erodable – that would create problems for them. So even on one lake you have two groups that have totally different perspectives Here's some shots I pulled off the internet showing this year's low levels: Waubushene on Georgian Bay ![]() St. Clair River ![]() North Channel, near Sault Ste. Marie ![]() Lake Huron, near Kincardine ![]() Eagle Harbor, Wisconsin, on Lake Superior ![]() |
Author: | 230 Mike [ Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
Lakes in the center of the country are the lowest I've ever seen them, but at least here the reason is obvious. Extreme drought for nearly a year now and triple digit temps nearly every day for most of the summer. |
Author: | Winter Sux [ Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
Another cargo ship ran aground today in Alexandria Bay in the St. Lawrence. Phoenix Star is her name I believe. |
Author: | Technologic80 [ Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Great Lakes water Levels |
I live on a canal directly off Lake St Clair. We had to pull our Vista 278 out of the water the last week of September, the earliest ever for us. Reason: The water is so low, the Vista was sitting on the bottom. Ive never seen it this low. Right now our canal is mud at my seawall and about 1' of water in the middle ![]() |
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