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| Author: | Graham R [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How to contact Four Winns ? |
I've bought another Four Winns, a 2009 one. It has an electrical problem with the forward bilge pump; it's always running, albeit at a slow speed ( 11.6V) until the auto or manual switch is energised (12.6V). . The (factory fitted) wiring harness to the forward bilge pump bears no resemblance to the wiring schematic in the owners manual ! The actual wiring also bears no resemblance to any auto/ manual bilge pump wiring I have come across before either I The dealer has no more information than what's in the manual. The "customer service" tab on the website only contacts the dealer ! The auto switch does not connect 12V directly to the bilge pump; it goes somewhere else first. The auto supply to the pump is always live ( 11.6V) at both ends of the wire ( at pump and at the manual switch). There must be an unknown, un-documented connection somewhere, either by design or fault How do I contact the Four Winns factory to find out what they have done with the wiring to make it so different to that in the schematics ? If all else fails, I'll rewire it properly ( that one wire will still be live though, as I don't know where it's getting it's power from ! |
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| Author: | NiagaraChillin [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Graham R wrote: I've bought another Four Winns, a 2009 one. First off, what did ya get?? I call foul for not letting us know!  Forward bilge must mean a Vista?Several people have asked here about contacting FW's direct, but they don't usually deal direct with the public, mostly through the dealer. I seem to remember someone posting their contact info a while back. I'll search. Can't help much with your wiring question, I'm all thumbs when it comes to electrical stuff 
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| Author: | acguy [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Sorry can't help you on the contact info but I do know that if the breaker is turned on in our panel for the forward bilge it runs. I also know that with the breaker off and water present our forward bilge will come on due to the float switch. I tested it to make sure. Oh ya what did you end up buying???? |
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| Author: | NiagaraChillin [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Found it (from another thread): Four Winns 925 Frisbie St, Cadillac, MI 49601 (231) 775-1351 Contact, Bill Kruger |
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| Author: | firecadet613 [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Correct, ask for Bill or someone in the warranty department, they have been around for many many years and can help with just about anything. What did you get?? |
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| Author: | Graham R [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Thanks for the contact details. Sorry I didn't actually mention what it is that I have bought, I thought I had ! It's a 2009 278 Vista with a VP D4 diesel; only around 7 engine hours from new, a dealer stock boat that was never sold to anyone before me so it's all in "brand new" condition ! It's a shame about the bilge pump problem but I'm not that worried about it as the auto switch and pump itself is OK and I can rewire them if necessary. So, no more refuelling the boat from 20 litre jerry cans of gasoline and diesel fuel from the marina fuel pontoon at £1.00 a litre rather than £1.30 + for the gasoline. |
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| Author: | Cap'n Morgan [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Graham R wrote: Well, almost 12 months ago I was considering a 378 with diesels/ IPS drives. I got very nervous about the potential costs of something going wrong and my inexpeience with maintainin such a beast and it's mechanical parts. Now, there is a 2005 Fairline Targa 34 with KAD 300 diesels/ outdrives I can afford. My wife says it's fine ( as long as I don't wan't a F type Jaguar as well). Quite a change from your last choice. Enjoy the 278. |
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| Author: | Graham R [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Cap'n Morgan wrote: Graham R wrote: Well, almost 12 months ago I was considering a 378 with diesels/ IPS drives. I got very nervous about the potential costs of something going wrong and my inexpeience with maintainin such a beast and it's mechanical parts. Now, there is a 2005 Fairline Targa 34 with KAD 300 diesels/ outdrives I can afford. My wife says it's fine ( as long as I don't wan't a F type Jaguar as well). Quite a change from your last choice. Enjoy the 278. Thanks. Yes, we decided that for the use we make of our boats with only the occasional overnight stay on them, the running costs/ maintenance costs of having twin ( older) engines wasn't justified. Now if the EVC starts to play up with this D4 engine or the steering cylinders start to leak and screw up the helm pump, I may be regretting my words ! I can also afford an interesting car now ! The thing I found strange about this D4 engined 278 is that there is no helm kill cord fitted. This is normal apparently according to the dealer. Gasoline engined 258s/ 278s seem to have one ! |
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| Author: | Cap'n Morgan [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Your choice makes sense, the Fairline is a beautiful express cruiser, but you should have easier maintenance, as well as being a more manageable size boat for your use. I do like the looks of the Fairline over a 278 though.....  
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| Author: | Graham R [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to contact Four Winns ? |
Cap'n Morgan wrote: I do like the looks of the Fairline over a 278 though..... I have to agree with you on that point; I have always liked them ! |
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