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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:24 am 
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Is this normal
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I'm referring to the bolts being crooked


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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:21 am 
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No, Not normal and Not good.

Pull your outdrive and check the alignment before you try to do anything. I'm guessing it is way off.

As to why they are like that? There must not be any solid meat in the stringer for the bolts to hold into. Not good.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:25 am 
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Don't panic yet. Start by checking if they are tight / will tighten, and if there is any sign that the motor mount has shifted.

It could just be sloppy workmanship. These are just Lag bolts drilled and screwed into the wood. Could have been drilled crooked from the start.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:01 pm 
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Mounts seemed to be tight but I'll check again tonight and they dont look like they have shifted at all. As for the alignment I'm not sure I'll have my marina check
No signs of any problems boat drives an shifts great


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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:50 pm 
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Okay so I pulled two lags out, one on each side, I drilled a little and seemed to be dry
At least one of the 4 lags won't completely tighten and all of them are crooked, it did in look like it was ever straight. The mounts them selfs look okay besides having the lag washer only make some contact

What am I looking at to fix this


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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:29 pm 
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What I'd consider doing:
Get some thinned epoxy (CPES from rot doc) and soak the wood in the mounts with it, give it as much as it will take. This will kill any rot spores and firm up the wood. Let it dry out for several days at least. Use a fume respirator, it is really stinky stuff with wicked carrier solvents. After that I'd fill the holes with thickened epoxy (rot doc's epoxy is very good, you can thicken it with sawdust.). Let that cure again for several days. Now you can carefully re-drill the holes straight. When you replace the lags, make sure to use sealer like Boat Life Sealer or 3M 4200 (Not 5200). This all assumes that there is not significant rot in the mounts. Wear a fume respirator as I said, you can develop an allergy to epoxies. Gloves and eye protection too.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:49 pm 
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One of the mounts has a small chip in it at the base should I also replace the mount


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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:18 pm 
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Something about this whole situation looks bad.

If the bolts were installed that crooked at the factory....

Is this the original engine in the boat?

What engine/drive does it have?

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My 97's (with 5.7GL) bolts are not too dissimilar to yours.
They're tight, dry and engine alignment is perfect.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:30 pm 
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mine are just like yours. every thing is all original

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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:11 am 
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Okay so how do I fix the one lag that won't grab. Do I just use a slightly larger bolt or should I appoxie and re drill


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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:13 am 
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You really could do either, I'd make my decision on the condition of the wood in the mount. If its dry and not rotted, you can use a longer bolt, but if there is any sign of wet rotted wood I'd do it the right way, because down the road that will save you from having to rebuild that whole mount (ie, cutting off the top of mount fiberglass, digging out all the old wood, and re-glassing the mount top--a lot of work)......

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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:36 pm 
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Fixed!


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 Post subject: Re: Engine mount
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:51 pm 
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Good job, did you use sealer?
The lack of sealer on fasteners, causes more rot in boats with wood cores than anything else.

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