Buddy just found a gem, buying it tomorrow

ric · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:27 pm

1990 Liberator 201 limited edition with the 454 King Cobra!!

http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/4558526138.html

Jdpber · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:23 pm

Buy buy buy, put some money in it redoing it and buddy will have a great ride

TX H210SS · **Joined:** Thu May 27, 2010 9:10 am **Posts:** 1488

Is that a kicker mount? Seems unusual for that style boat....around here anyway.

ric · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:03 pm

Started up fine, everything worked and seemed okay but the guy refused to lake test with cash in hand. Walked away. Too bad.

rpengr · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:38 pm

His advertisement never claimed that the engine ran or was OK. Probably has a cracked block and/or bad manifolds.

ric · **Posted:** Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:15 pm

rpengr wrote:

His advertisement never claimed that the engine ran or was OK. Probably has a cracked block and/or bad manifolds.

He did on the phone. The guy was a prick. He said "for $4000 you should just take it how it is, it's a good boat I'm the 2nd owner my father was the first. This weekend if it doesn't sell I'm going to have it professionally detailed and raise the price to 6 grand".

My buddy also offered to have a mobile marine mechanic come check it out so he knows what to fix, the guy refused. No service records. The oil filter and fuel filter were so old they were rusted over, and it was not a salt water boat. That takes 5+ years.

Something is severely wrong and he doesn't want anyone to know, trying to make a quick buck on someone. If the guy would just tell the truth what's wrong, it would make an amazing project boat. Hull, floors, cabin, seats are all in 6/10 condition. Just needs to be repowered. It's a limited edtion 201, it's not something you just throw away it's worth fixing.

john55c · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:21 am

It's probably stolen.

LouC · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:04 am

And it's got the King Cobra Cone Clutch drive you can't even get an impeller for....

ric · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:07 am

LouC wrote:

And it's got the King Cobra Cone Clutch drive you can't even get an impeller for....

You mean this one that took me 10 seconds to find?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OMC-King-Co ... 0741060302

Jdpber · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:00 am

$100 oh wow that is crazy. i bought 3 impellers for my boat and stuck 2 not he parts shelf along with 2 full OD gasket sets and i spent around $85 for all of that to have spare parts on hand whenever i need them.

But still anything can be found. Your local dealer may not have the part on the shelf any more but an older marine shop with NOS inventory will. I have a shop in the next town that had a lower unit water color tube on the shelf. Dude charged me $5 for it. he had all sorts of parts. I walked by 5-6 efi OMC cobra and king cobra motors. he had an isle of OMC out drives back to the 70s. Has a plethora of parts. said "if he didn't have what i wanted his cousin over yonder would have it" sometimes Walmart is not the best place to shop for boat parts or the brand spanking new boat dealer that has not been in that location for 50 years.. You have to hunt the old parts at the OLD shops..

BUT that drive does have rare parts, But they can be had.

shit for 4k and y'all already knew it was needing repower, y'all should offer 3k see what guy said and hell even 4k you can still afford to reposer and make it whole. I was under the impression of 4k walk up inspect, no major holes or hull damage and drive away with it..

I think y'all missed a good boat by allowing the lake test to break the sale.. that boat can be made to go so fast very easy..

rpengr · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:47 am

The Craig's List add has been removed.

LVChris · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:12 pm

Here's another...

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/boa/4561966832.html

LouC · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:18 pm

Same lower hull as my 88 H-200, 21* dead rise excellent rough water handling.
While you might find some of the drive parts, good luck finding a shop that will know how to work on it.

ric · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:42 pm

LouC wrote:

Same lower hull as my 88 H-200, 21* dead rise excellent rough water handling.
While you might find some of the drive parts, good luck finding a shop that will know how to work on it.

Yup. Your hull with a 454 big block.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

FourWinnKC · **Posted:** Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:17 pm

LouC wrote:

Same lower hull as my 88 H-200, 21* dead rise excellent rough water handling.
While you might find some of the drive parts, good luck finding a shop that will know how to work on it.

I have a king cobra cone clutch and hesitated before I purchased my boat. After a lot of research I realized its not something to fear as much as many like to make it. Yes they are rare, but lots of parts are still available, there is a company now making impeller kits and many of the parts are interchangeable with the 95 to I forget which year Volvo SX drive. I found a mechanic near where I boat who has no issues working them and I live by a mechanic who has vast experience with them. He has at least a dozen lower units that I know of and one complete drive still in the crate. He is also the one that informed me about the Volvo SX and just how similar, as in very, it is to king cobra cone. Volvo purchased OMC in late '94 and leveraged the OMC design heavily for years. Hell the even used the same casting.

My point is, yes its not a merc bravo, but one does not need to avoid it like the plague. They are very durable, smooth, strong drives.

My 2 cents for what its worth.

www.iFourWinns.com

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