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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:52 am 
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The compact Kubota 12-hp Marine Power Unit from Next Generation Power measures 16 by 18 by 21 inches and weighs only 150 pounds, but it powers refrigerators, watermakers, any kind of electric device and even hydraulic pumps, according to the manufacturer. With a high-output alternator, the 2-cylinder diesel also can be used to charge batteries. Other features include heat exchanger cooling, stainless-steel exhaust and oil-pressure and water-temperature safety shutdowns. Suggested retail price is $3,495.


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Nice little unit, if space and weight are at a premium on your boat.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:58 am 
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That is a nice unit except that it's diesel which still can be done, but mixed fuels on a boat are never a good thing, just more chance for operator screw up or marina screw up.

Westerbeke makes a 3.0KW genset that is small and lightweight (gas) runs at much less RPM than the competition and is very quiet. It's not cheap though, figure 5-6K

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:53 am 
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The UCM1-3.5 is available in a standard version or in a modified configuration that is Ignition Protection Certified for use in gasoline powered vessels. Diesel gen-sets in gas boats are becoming more popular as generator manufacturers are dropping their gasoline lines due to safety and liability concerns. With a 5-10 gallon auxiliary tank, owners1 of gasoline boats can now enjoy the safety, reliability and fuel economy of diesel at about the same price as current gas gen-sets.


http://www.nextgenerationpower.com/Info ... 5Specs.pdf

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:26 pm 
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Some additional info on gas vs. diesel generators on boats.

*Diesels are safer from the standpoint of explosions as diesel oil vapors are not explosive.

*Gas generators are responsible for most instances of CO poisoning.

*Diesel exhaust produces far less CO than gas exhaust, though diesel exhaust produces suphur dioxide that can quickly cause nausea, but is not life threatening. If you plan to do much overighting at anchor with a generator running, diesel is definitely the way to go.

*With heavy use, a diesel powered genny will outlast a gas powered equivalent.

* Diesel generators last far longer than gas generators. To get diesel fuel to burn requires much higher compression than a gasoline engine so the block, crankshaft and cylinder heads of a diesel engine are made heavier than a similarly sized gasoline engine. But despite the higher pressures of a diesel engine, these heavier parts simply last longer.

* Diesel generators have better fuel consumption than gas. Diesel fuel has a much higher energy content per gallon than gasoline. Given the similar efficiencies of the two engine technologies, the diesel engine burns fewer gallons of fuel for the same power output.

* An 1800 rpm water cooled diesel unit operates for 12,000 to 30,000 hours before any major maintenance is necessary. An 1800 rpm water cooled gas unit usually operates for 6000-10,000 hours before it needs servicing.

* Gas units burn hotter than diesel units, and hence they have a significantly shorter life compared with diesel units.

In a side by side test at last years' Ft. Lauderdale Boat Show, there was a test of one of these genny's up against a Kohler gas powered genny of similar power. I forget the actual db readings , but the diesel unit was significantly quieter. Many builders are switching to diesel these days, and now with this compact design, boaters with limited space can also take advantage of the benefits as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:10 pm 
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The whole explosive gas vapor argument is negated by the fact that there is still a gasoline engine in the bilge. Mixed fuels introduce the ability to improperly fuel the gas and/or diesel tanks (and it does happen quite often, just as often as marina attendants putting gas into the bilge via a rod holder).

No arguments on the lifespan of diesel or the reduction in CO. A Diesel Genset isn't a bad thing.. But for guys with small engine rooms, there may not be additional room for a fuel tank. (The Vistas however, if not optioned with gray water, have a perfect spot for a 16.5 gallon diesel tank!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:22 pm 
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FYI,

I contacted the manufacturer and this is not a genset it is a "Marine Power Unit" it does not generate any electricity, it requires you to add an alternator to it.


I knew that price was too good to be true for a Genset.

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