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Package 1 (drain and fog):

1. Stabilize fuel
2. Run engine on hose and fog with storage seal
3. Completely drain all water from engine block, exhaust manifolds, circulating water pump and oil cooler
$129.00, plus tax

Package 2 (8 point winterize):

1. Change engine oil and filter
2. Change lower unit oil
3. Replace water separating fuel filter
4. Check belts and hoses
5. Grease steering and clean flame arrestor
6. Stabilize fuel
7. Run engine on hose and fog with storage seal
8. Completely drain all water from engine block, exhaust manifolds, circulating water pump and oil cooler
$349.00, plus tax

Package 3 (11 point winterize) includes 8 point above, plus what is below:

9. Remove outdrive and check for water intrusion and condition of bellows
10. Grease U-joints, gimbal bearing, drive shaft and engine coupler
11. Check engine alignment
$399.00, plus tax

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Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4

Last year I winterized with 40.6 hours on the boat and did the 8 point package. My boat is at about 76 hours right now and I will hopefully put a couple more on before I take it in. With that said, I am techinically overdue for my alignment, which was due at 50 hours. I guess I will opt for the full meal deal this time. I am debating on having it done at an independent shop, but think in the best interest of staying in warranty, may just stay with dealer service for the moment.

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Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4

No AF, they just drain the block and dry-store?

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2003 Four Winns Horizon 210
VP 5.0 GXI SX
"THE GREEN HORNET"

Option 3 is pretty dang cheap. Up here, you'd be looking at double that. I'd do the alignment and drive service...

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2008 318 Vista -SOLD, but I am still around!
All Night Long, Seattle WA

We dont need antifreeze here in my opinion. And for me...I store in my garage, so its certainly not cold enough for me to worry about.

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Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4

I'm over here in Wylie, not far from you, and that's why I asked. I'm on the fence as far as using AF or just draining. My boat is on the driveway so maybe I'll fill it.

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2003 Four Winns Horizon 210
VP 5.0 GXI SX
"THE GREEN HORNET"

Yeah, stored outside, I can see your point. I still think it would be ok to not go with anti-freeze. Give Phil Dill a call and just ask...see what they say. Also...call some local places for where you are closer to and see.

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Current Boat:
2004 Sea Ray 320 Sundancer "Nauti Luvin'"

Previous Boats:
1999 298 Vista "Seas The Day"
2008 H200SS "Nauti Luv"
2006 Tahoe Q4

Just had mine done here in Ohio on Saturday. They did all fresh,grey and black water systems. Winterized and changed oil on the motor and outdrive, and placed fuel conditioner in the tank. The cost was $332.00. Included in this package is spring prep which all of the anti-freeze is drained, ( A Major Pain the the Rear) batteries put back in and the motor started. I thought this was ok. In the spring I will have them service the outdrive and trailer. OUR TEMP IS GOING DOWN TO 39 DEGREES TOMORROW NIGHT.

I do have a question though, I have 107 hours on the motor. When does it require a tune up?

I don't know if I like being called a "ClownFish"!

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2003 268 Four Winns Vista
F-350 King Ranch Diesel (Tow)
1990 Four Winns Fredom 180

I just noticed I've graduated to clownfish as well. Oh well, I've been called worse...

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2003 Four Winns Horizon 210
VP 5.0 GXI SX
"THE GREEN HORNET"

Thats not a bad price at all. I do have a gen and AC to get done also. I think I'm doing it myself. Hope to get out one last time....

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2007 358 T-5.7GXi IB
Previous Boats
'08 H240, '08 V318, '04 268, '04 225

I don't use anti freeze in my boats as well, we temps below zero and day time temps upto the teens, for a period of time.

Just got to drain it well. AF salesman is going to tell you to use it if you live where temp dip down to 38 deg.


As far as taking boat to shop to have done, what ever make you feel better about having it done. Very easy to do yourself and for almost pennies on the dollar. If your worried about warranty issues, take it in.

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2000 248 5.7L DP
'92, '94 SXI 750, '08 STX 15F, '12 Ultra LX 300
Videos

I do what you consider you package #3 every year except I have AF through the engine. Cost for me is $245 plus tax. I used to do it myself. But for what it costs me...I much rather drop it off and pick it up a day later with it all done. With package #3, they will shrink wrap the boat for another $75. If I needed it...that is a bargain. Place is small, been in business a long time and just great to deal with. I always show up the morning I drop the boat off with a box of donuts from the local bakery. Always pick my boat up the following day.

I do basically the whole thing (except no water systems) including the drive removal lube and inspection...plus I do back fill the engine and manifolds with -100 AF which significantly adds to the cost...but I feel it's worth it because my own observation of the thermostat housing I installed back in 03 suggests that it does slow corrosion...parts and materials cost is about 100 bucks....takes me about 3 hrs...in the spring I reinstall the drive and put in a new impeller and thermostat...tune the engine (check points dwell...timing...idle speed and replace spark plugs)...then it's ready to go....

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88 Four Winns 200 Horizon
4.3 OMC Cobra-4bbl
2002 Walker Bay 10/2012 Suzuki 2.5
2008 Walker Bay 8

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

I do basically the same as #2 myself for my 07 H180.The parts alone are $190.00(Canadian dollars) with antifreeze, using mineral base oil everything else Genuine VP, I have added a fuel separator as well.Next year I will do the same but I will replace the impeller.I had the dealer pull the drive and check the alignment and lube the spline it was about $75.00.

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Andrew
07 H180
2000 Buell X-1
Stouffville Ontario
Canada

FYI these are my dealer rates for this season some seem reasonable some, not so much
I will probably let the dealer winterize it this season as part of my 20hr check just to make sure everything is ok.

Basic Stern drive, Inboard $107.48
(Stabilize Fuel, drain water from engine, run engine on antifreeze)

#1 Winterize 4/6/8 Volvo AQ Stern Drive $ 199.99

(Drain drive and refill with oil. Stabilize gas, fog engine, drain water in block, manifold
and oil cooler. Fill engine with antifreeze. Drain Bilge, checked belt tension, check hoses
Remove prop grease shaft. Charge battery, Add Star Tron to fuel


#1 Winterize 4/6/8 Volvo SX-DP Stern drive $229.98

(Drain drive and refill with syn. lube. Stabilize gas, fog engine, drain water in block, manifold
and oil cooler. Fill engine with antifreeze. Drain Bilge, checked belt tension, check hoses
Remove prop grease shaft. Charge battery, Add Star Tron to fuel


#2 Winterize 4/6/8 Volvo AQ Drive With Oil & Filter Change $269.97

(Drain drive and refill with oil. Stabilize gas, fog engine, drain water in block, manifold
and oil cooler. Fill engine with antifreeze. Drain Bilge, checked belt tension, check hoses
Remove prop grease shaft. Charge battery, Add Star Tron to fuel. Change oil/filter


#2 Winterize 4/6/8 Volvo SX - DP With Oil And Filter Change $297.62

(Drain drive and refill with syn. lube. Stabilize gas, fog engine, drain water in block, manifold
and oil cooler. Fill engine with antifreeze. Drain Bilge, checked belt tension, check hoses
Remove prop grease shaft. Charge battery, Add Star Tron to fuel. Change oil/filter


#3 Winterize 4/6/8 AQ Volvo Oil/Filter Change, Grease Gimble $ 333.31

Bearing and U-Joints, Check Engine Alignment (Every 3 Years)
Same as package #2 with engine alignment, greasing gimble bearing and u-joints)

#3 Winterize 4/6/8 SX-DP Volvo Oil/Filter Change, Grease Gimble $ 361.31

Bearing and U-Joints, Check Engine Alignment (Every 3 Years)
Same as package #2 with engine alignment, greasing gimble bearing and u-joints)



Additional Services Requested
Manufacture Recommendation

Replace Water Pump Impeller
Every 3 Years or 300 Hours $ 180.34

Replace Water Separating Filter Every Year $ 20.49

Repack Trailer Bearings Single Axle Every 2 Years $ 169.72

Repack Trailer Bearings Tandem Axle Every 2 Years $ 330.45

Winterize Holding Tank & Head $ 79.67

Empty Head Holding Tank $ 175.99

Winterize Fresh Water Sink $ 59.13

Winterize Galley, Head Sink & Shower $ 99.73

Hot Water Tank $ 72.99

Winterize Transom Shower $ 59.13

Shrink Wrap ($12.00 per foot) ($210.00 min)

Bottom Cleaning ($7.00 per foot (plus materials, approximately $30.00)

Buff, Wax and Clean Boat ($15.00 per foot)

Bottom Painting per foot (includes materials) $ 30.00

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2008 Horizon 260 VP 8.1 Gi