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Author: | Winedown [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Either I'm turning it the wrong way or my filter is stuck. The engine is a Volvo Penta 5.0 Gi on a 2001 Vista 298. The filter mounts with threads facing up. Per the manual the filter unscrews counterclockwise. So...is that counterclockwise looking down at it (which would make it reverse thread) or traditional counterclockwise which means you turn clockwise when looking down at it. It won't budge a millimeter in either direction and I put enough force on it to start to collapse the filter. Anyone have any experience with this? |
Author: | 230 Mike [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Looking down at it from above, it's clockwise. There are a bunch of different types of filter wrenches available. |
Author: | Winedown [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
That was my assumption since the fuel filter turned the same way....at least now I have some reassurance I'm turning it the right way. Just a frustrating day overall. Time for a beer and wait for daybreak to tackle it again. |
Author: | 298VISTA2000 [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Par for the course for it being "stuck" (and it doesn't matter if you or your tech put oil on the gasket prior to screwing it on). Time to get the screw driver out and punch a hole in it and turn counter clockwise. LouC will chime in here and tell you how to get it off. PITA. |
Author: | Winedown [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Previous owner....either him or his mechanic. I don't like either one of them right this minute....well, they did keep the boat in great condition so I'll give them that much. |
Author: | acguy [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Well if you can get a oil pan under it and you can't get it off with the filter wrench you are using, ( if you are using one) you can get a big slot screw driver and drive it through. That will get it off but that is the last resort it is a little messy!! Good Luck |
Author: | Berger [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
It took me two days to get my oil filter off last year and it didn't even look like one after I was done with it (I had crushed it, poked holes in it, etc). However, after trying every trick in the book, sandpaper inside of the oil change wrench worked like a charm. Put the sandpaper side out against the filter. It was like the thing wasn't stuck at all. I remember it was was a horrible two days stressing out about it, especially after I had the thing crushed with holes in it, and it was still attached. Try the sandpaper and good luck!! |
Author: | 298VISTA2000 [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Berger wrote: It took me two days to get my oil filter off last year and it didn't even look like one after I was done with it (I had crushed it, poked holes in it, etc). LOL. I know what you mean. I made sounds that I never knew a human could make trying to pry mine off. I felt like an idiot when my tech punched a screw driver thru it and got it right off. I wouldn't sweat the bit of oil that goes into the bilge either. If BP got away with spilling 30 million gallons into the ocean, I guess we are allotted a pint or so. |
Author: | LouC [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
The sandpaper trick (I discovered this about 35 years ago) works great on filters that were put on too tight and/or with no oil on the gasket. I have NEVER had a problem removing a filter I installed myself, with oil on the gasket, and tightened by hand 1 turn after the filter contacts the mounting base. The only tight filters I have come across have been on new vehicles on the first oil change. Same goes for fuel filters.... |
Author: | Winedown [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Well, it's off. My buddy who is much more mechanically inclined than I am came by with a much better filter wrench and managed to get it off. He's also about 40 pounds lighter than me and was able to really squeeze himself between the engines to get a good angle on it and the right leverage. Both engines now have new oil, new oil filters, and new fuel filters...and it only took about 8 hours of my day. I sure hope the fresh water system goes better.... |
Author: | LouC [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Hey you're doing great, it's always a good idea to get help when you need it and then when you take em off next year it'll be easy because you did it right this time.... I have about 4 different kinds of oil filter wrenches that I've accumulated over 38 years of oil changing, strap wrenches, cap wrenches and a cool Lisle wrench that grips the filter with 2 clamping jaws that works when all else fails.... I am of the belief that you can never have too many tools.... ask away if you have any problems with the rest of the job... |
Author: | Cincy Aquaholic [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
I've never found an oil filter that I could not beat since getting a pair of these. If you've got room to turn them they'll do the job. |
Author: | 248 Vista [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
If it happens again. get a very large hose clamp. Tighten around filter and then hold a screw driver on the screw part of the clamp and hit it with a hammer. Will loosen right up |
Author: | Obie [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
I know your pain! Two years ago I went to the local dealer to get a Volvo oil filter only to find that they were out of Volvo filters but had a Mercury filter that would also fit. So I installed the Mercury filter being careful to put oil on the gasket and not over tighten it. When it came time to remove it, it would not budge. I know that I was trying to turn it the correct way. More force with the oil filter wrench quickly crushed the filter. More brute force with a vice grip only tore the filter to pieces. Now oil is dripping into the bilge. Step two was to remove the oil hoses and the bracket the filter was mounted on and take the entire mess into the workshop. I put the filter bracket in a large vise and used a hammer and punch on the filter inlet plate holes. Getting a good angle on a filter inlet hole I could hit the punch and put tremendous torque on the filter. It would not release even though the punch was starting to tear through the filter inlet plate holes. Step three was to use a Dremmel tool to cut all of the filter inlet plate between the filter gasket and the filter threads (i.e., cut the metal plate between each of the oil inlet holes). This released the pressure between the filter threads on the gasket and the two pieces were easily removed. The filter remains are now permanently mounted in the wall in the workshop as a tribute to how badly things can go wrong. Lessons learned: 1) buy Volvo oil filters because the metal exterior is apparently much stronger, and 2) use a red magic marker to indicate the direction to rotate the filter to remove it and include large letters that says OFF (this removes any doubt about which way to turn the filter while hanging head down in the engine compartment, 3) removing the oil filter hoses and exterior mounting bracket is a easy job and should be considered before performing violent actions in a confined space containing fragile wires, hoses, and sensors. Good luck, you are not alone. |
Author: | LouC [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: HELP!!!!! Stuck oil filter |
Quote: removes any doubt about which way to turn the filter while hanging head down in the engine compartment, 3) removing the oil filter hoses and exterior mounting bracket is a easy job and should be considered before performing violent actions in a confined space containing fragile wires, hoses, and sensors. Good luck, you are not alone. Violent actions, LOL been there nearly done that many times. I hope there are no impressionable young children outside when I do some of these jobs, some of the cuss words I manage to string together!! BTW, I have used Sierra oil and fuel filters and have never had trouble getting one off. Also I've used Purolator filters on my vehicles for years, never had a problem. Oil the gasket well, 3/4-->1 turn after the gasket contacts the base, never had one that I couldn't get off in 38 years of driveway oil changes....oh yeah....never say never.... |
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