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| Author: | verpoort [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
Hey Guys/Gals, Just a quick question. How realistic are the new listed MSPR's on the 2011 Four Winns website? I only ask because we bought a 2011 H210SS this past October. We bought it for $43,0000.....I knew I would do better on price if I bought it at that time of the year, but Four Winns has our exact boat (same options) and everything with an MSRP of $61,198.00. So, I guess the question is, how well did we do by buying the boat in 2010 vs 2011? Thanks Jim |
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| Author: | cougarcruiser [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
The MSRP from 2010 is probably not all that different from 2011 (maybe a couple grand). It sould seem like you got a roughly 30% discount - which I would think you should be very proud of for the boat you have! |
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| Author: | TX H210SS [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
my boat prices out at over 61k also-sorry but i call bs on those prices....i'm going to boat show saturday in houston and bet they 210ss are around the 45k range. while its a warmfuzzy feeling i cant see anyone paying that 60plus for this model. seems like the peso price to me. 383 bucks for a spare...$ 222 for a freaking cushion...they r asking $ 4,500 for the arch. i wish the values were that strong...cuz i would sell mine if that kind of money could be made. I may be wrong and will advise what their best offer is at the show. |
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| Author: | Walt [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
Agreed. When I test drove mine, it was listed for $6ok; I walked away with it for $42k. About the same 30% I was expecting. That's how I would adjust the MSRP to real-world. |
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| Author: | Cap'n Morgan [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
TX H210SS wrote: .i'm going to boat show saturday in houston and bet they 210ss are around the 45k range. That's about right, you can find several 2011H210SS boats advertised right at $44K on line. Boat show price should be a touch better at about $41k to $42K. |
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| Author: | verpoort [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
So, if Im understanding this correctly, it looks as though Four Winns is simply trying to inflate the worth of their products with way off set MSRP's? 30% is kind of ridiculous! Hopefully people looking for new Four Winns boats figure out that those prices are BS. Admittedly, when my wife and I were on the website last summer looking at the SS series my jaw hit the floor and I said to myself, "there is no way Im paying that much for a 21' boat". I did however start looking for the previous years model thinking that I could do much better if they had any left, and thats when I found out the dealer prices where far better than what was listed on the Four Winns website. Jim |
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| Author: | Walt [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
verpoort wrote: ... off set MSRP's? 30% is kind of ridiculous! ....Jim Not just FW; When I was shopping back in '06-'07, I saw that with many manuf's (Ebbtide, FW, and a few others). I did notice Crownline wasn't budging. Maybe there is less "flex" today on the price than a few years back, but looking at MSRP, and actual advertised dealer prices, I would say 30% is still the norm. |
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| Author: | BrentC5Z [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
30% is pretty standard in the industry. Also keep in mind, most dealers bring inventory to a boat show that they NEED to dump (hence the "boat show specials"). Outside of the newest models of course. |
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| Author: | Walt [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
BrentC5Z wrote: Also keep in mind, most dealers bring inventory to a boat show that they NEED to dump (hence the "boat show specials"). Outside of the newest models of course. Agreed... I've noticed more than a few 21 footers with 5.0L engines at these shows... A poor match, if you ask me! Same with pontoons, for example; 20+ foot tooner with a 40hp outboard. |
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| Author: | 240 Joe [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
It's been a while but I bought my 2006 H240 in early 2007 for 30% off of list plus $1,000 factory incentive. I thought I got such a good deal because it was a leftover but it sounds like that's the deal all the time. |
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| Author: | powellcrazy [ Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
240 Joe wrote: It's been a while but I bought my 2006 H240 in early 2007 for 30% off of list plus $1,000 factory incentive. I thought I got such a good deal because it was a leftover but it sounds like that's the deal all the time. Boats / RV's, I would say a standard price is 30% off MSRP, of course the Stealer, Um, Dealer will gladly take more of course. I think a good deal is more that 30% off, but they got to make a buck and pay there bills as well. I am all for set pricing, everyone should get the same deal, MFG and Stealer get there dollar. |
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| Author: | TX H210SS [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
Boat show was good with exception of not finding parts I was looking for......anyway, the FW Dealer (only 1 in Houston,TX) had a H220-SS at the show. The price was right at 50k. He said the price of a 2011 H210-SS would be around the 43 to 44k range. |
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| Author: | LouC [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
Well these prices would not be so bad if boats did not depreciate so much.....it makes the decision of whether to re-power my old boat, when the time comes, that much easier...for the depreciation I would lose on buying a new Horizon over only 2 years or so, I could buy a new engine and drive system and install it myself and start with all new mechanicals, and no loan..... |
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| Author: | Walt [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
I just went to our Boat show yeasterday, and noticed MANY 22-23 ft boats with 5.0L engines, and DP (B3/ or Volvo DP). Not sure what manufacturers and dealers are up to these days... just trying to bring down the price at a huge sacrifice in performance IMO. |
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| Author: | TX H210SS [ Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Four Winns MSRP for 2011 |
It's been my experience that they have frequently put the standard to mid-power range in most boats at the show.....with the eception of the huge off shore and top of the line wakeboard boats. I guess they are trying to keep the display price low as possible and address the power option once your hooked. Finding a good deal on a barely used boat is the way to go in my opinion....you have to be patient and do your research and drive all over the place, but that deal will happen. I actually think RVs are worse in regard to holding their value......ie....i'm thinking the depriection hit at time of purchase is closer to 50 percent...you can buy a 40k fifth wheel or buy the exact same thing used for 20k - and i mean one of those used RV that got taken out maybe 2 times. |
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