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2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
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Author:  SeriousRob [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
I was just looking at the specs of the newer boats and it looks to me that the older Horizon 180 was about the size of the newer 190. Specs on my 2001 180 per FourWinns are:
LOA 18-6
Bean 8-1
Wt 2790
Which are almost identical to the newer 190. Did Four Winns make a change to downsize at some point? I also see that the newer boats don't have the engine options that were previously available. Just curious as I was salivating over the 200SS with the 5.7 engine. Very nice and would almost convince me to trade up if I didn't have kids in college.
Rob
Author:  RotaryRacer [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
SeriousRob wrote:
I was just looking at the specs of the newer boats and it looks to me that the older Horizon 180 was about the size of the newer 190. Specs on my 2001 180 per FourWinns are:
LOA 18-6
Bean 8-1
Wt 2790


Your boat (the basic hull/design) had a couple of names during its run

1997-1998 -- Horizon RX
1999-2002 -- 180 Horizon
2003-2004 -- 180 Freedom
2005 -- 180 Horizon LE

This hull design has the following basic dimensions:
LOA : 18'-0"
Beam: 8'-0"
Deadrise: 19 degrees

In 2003/2004 Four Winns introduced a new hull design for the 17 and 18 ft boats. These become the 170 (17'-4") Horizon and 180 (18'-4") Horizon. They also kept the older hull style and used the Freedom name to distinguish b/w the two hulls.

In 2005 they dropped the 170 Freedom hull yet kept the older 18'-0" hull that your boat is and called it the 180 Horizon LE.

Here is where it is a little fuzzy for me. The 170 Horizon that was introduced in 2004 has the following specs:
LOA: 17'-4"
Beam: 7'-6"
Deadrise: 21 degrees

This boat is seemingly the same boat that is now called the H180. I haven't had the opportunity to see these 2 next to each other, however, from pictures they do look to be the same. If they are the same 2006 was the first year it was called a 180.

The funny thing is that in 2006 thru 2010 the 180 Horizon/H180 had the following specs:
LOA: 17'-5"
Beam: 7'-7"
Dearise: 21 degrees

In 2011 it went back to the 17'-4" it started with?

2006 was when the new/current 190 Horizon was introduced. This boat has the following specs:
LOA: 18'-6"
Beam: 7'-11"
Deadrise: 19 degrees
Author:  SeriousRob [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
Interesting huh?
So If I were considering an upgrade I would have to go to the Horizon 200 or 210 to actually get more space.
Not a problem, it's just interesting they would change sizes with the same name multiple times throughout the years.
Take care
Rob
Author:  Cap'n Morgan [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
You may get more "space" in the H200, but it may only be in LOA, not in the cockpit. The sun pad configuration takes almost all the useable cockpit space that once was there.
Author:  robbo3 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
SeriousRob wrote:
Interesting huh?
So If I were considering an upgrade I would have to go to the Horizon 200 or 210 to actually get more space.


To get more space, you would likely need to be larger...see my thread for more discussion on that topic: http://www.smwebhead.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7150

There is a lot of interior room in the older 18' Horizons, although they lack the sunpad and larger platform.
Author:  SeriousRob [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2001 - 2002 Horizon 180 versus newer models?
Good previous discussion.
Thanks for the link
Rob
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