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Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
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Author:  Jafo4U [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Ok so I took out all the water hoses on the engine since I squeezed one of them and it made a cracking noise inside. I also opened the impellor and took that out it looked new going to replace it since I don't think you can just put it back in. I also took off the serpentine belt and the throttle body. My question is when I reinstall the hoses is there a special method of priming the water pump so the engine and water pump don't run without water for any amount of time. First time owner so I want to make sure I don't screw something up just because I didn't ask a question I thought was dumb. My thought is I just reinstall the hoses hookup my hose to the blue fitting on the engine and let the water run for a bit until I see it coming out the back and maybe bump start it to get some water in the water pump then just fire it up like I would on a regular car engine. If anything sounds wrong please let me know this will be my project this weekend weather permitting. Thanks for your replies 8) Joe in Miami
Author:  230 Mike [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
If you're sure the impeller is OK you can put it back in, but if you already have it out you might as well replace it. Either way, when you put it (or the new one) back in, it's critical that you coat it with the glycerin that comes in the kit. The glycerin provides lubrication to the impeller during those few seconds when it would otherwise run dry and potentially be damaged.

Related note, you can buy a whole bottle of pure glycerin at WalMart for cheap, in case you don't have it from the kit.
Author:  Jafo4U [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Exactly why I post even questions that appear dumb to me since I had no idea you had to put a coating on the impellor. Thank you very much!! I will google this coating to see what your talking about and I have a walmart very close to my house which I will be visiting tomorrow to pick this product up. Thanks again I really appreciate it.
Author:  230 Mike [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:17 am ]
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You're welcome. Here ya go:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Humco-Skin-Pr ... z/10417582
Author:  ric [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Special procedure for hoses?

Only one. Make sure they're tight
Author:  Paul I. [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
I have heard that you can use dishwashing soap. Is this true??
Author:  230 Mike [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Dish soap would "probably" be OK if you start up immediately after you get it reassembled. Otherwise it will probably dry up and be useless when it's most needed.
Author:  ric [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
I usually just spit on my fingers, get the inside wet, and slip it in
Author:  beyond the blue [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
ric wrote:
I usually just spit on my fingers, get the inside wet, and slip it in


Really? :lol:
Author:  Jafo4U [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
ric wrote:
I usually just spit on my fingers, get the inside wet, and slip it in



Sounds like a plan LOL!! :lol: That is the procedure on the sandbar but I have to get it out there first.

Thanks Mike for the link I was having trouble finding it online.
Author:  Jafo4U [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
230 Mike wrote:
If you're sure the impeller is OK you can put it back in, but if you already have it out you might as well replace it. Either way, when you put it (or the new one) back in, it's critical that you coat it with the glycerin that comes in the kit. The glycerin provides lubrication to the impeller during those few seconds when it would otherwise run dry and potentially be damaged.

Related note, you can buy a whole bottle of pure glycerin at WalMart for cheap, in case you don't have it from the kit.


Got her all squared away, the impellor took me longer than expected because when I put it in the housing with the glycerin after I had the housing somewhat tight I noticed it was facing the wrong way, the hose hookups were to the right instead of to the left I was so glad my miller lite's were cold because while I took it off with no hoses attached I noticed I forgot to put the belt on so I started laughing and thought at least I only had two screws tightened. What is the deal with Four Winns a Phillips Head screw would be so much easier to work with especially the one at the bottom although it wasn't a big deal I think someone should relay this to Four Winns. I took the hoses to the dealer turns out they didn't need to be replaced lol! I figured wth might as well put them in new since I had them off already now I have the 3 year old set as backups. The next part of the saga will be titled Pulling the Duoprop
Author:  230 Mike [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Well, you're having a good old time with this, but when you're done you'll have a pretty good understanding of how to maintain your boat, or at least the importance of having someone do it.
Author:  Jafo4U [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
You are definitely correct mike I rather enjoy acquiring the new DIY skills even if they come with a few scrapes and bumps and a fair share of profanity here and there lol. I want to know everything is perfect with the normal maintenance items since I am keeping a log and I know I can be a little picky but I know I won't have this boat forever since I went for a ride in a friends cruiser with AC and it was heavenly! My peace of mind will be to know that while she was in my care she was extremely loved and taken care of and whoever has her next will hopefully love her and take care of her as well as I am doing hopefully with less profanity lol! It's my first boat I am sure the headaches are more lack of knowledge than anything,it comes with the territory and hopefully I will be helping others with my experience in the future like you are helping me my friend.
Author:  Graham R [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Jafo4U wrote:
230 Mike wrote:
If you're sure the impeller is OK you can put it back in, but if you already have it out you might as well replace it. Either way, when you put it (or the new one) back in, it's critical that you coat it with the glycerin that comes in the kit. The glycerin provides lubrication to the impeller during those few seconds when it would otherwise run dry and potentially be damaged.

Related note, you can buy a whole bottle of pure glycerin at WalMart for cheap, in case you don't have it from the kit.


What is the deal with Four Winns a Phillips Head screw would be so much easier to work with especially the one at the bottom although it wasn't a big deal I think someone should relay this to Four Winns.


Replace them with M5 cap heads ( there is also a direct equivalent UNF thread).they are much easier to remove/ replace, as they fit snugly onto the end of an allen key and don't fall into / disappear in the bilge !

Graham
Author:  TX H210SS [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Replacing hoses any special procedures for reassembly?
Good idea on the M5's - i hadnt thought of that and had been planning on finding some stainless phillip heads at the hardware store next go round. It is amazing they use flat heads - the hex head drive would work if the screw head wasn't so close to the housing - the m5 head would be a no brainer.

On the impeller - make sure you bend the blades opposite of the direction the impeller spins....in other words if it rotates clockwise the blades need to be bent to facing counter-clockwise. this prevent crushing of the fins when it first starts to spin.
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