www.iFourWinns.com

According to whom?

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

Four Winns web site.

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1981 Columbia 8.7
2015 Yamaha FZR - 87mph - sold
2006 Yamaha GP1300R - sold
2003 Chaparral 215 SSI - sold
2009 Stingray 195CS - sold
2000 Four Winns H180 - sold
1976 O'day Daysailer II - sold
Rick's Four Winns H180 Mods/Upgrade Thread

Where? I looked before I asked because it would really surprise me if they included an automatic system on the entry level boat. I don't think I've seen one from the factory on any entry level sub 20' boat.

H180 Standards:

Hull and Deck

Bow and stern eyes, stainless steel
Cleats, stainless steel
Fiberglass stringers
Gel scheme, Classic Color Band (CCB): Deep Navy, True Red, Steel Gray, Jet Black or all-white
Gel scheme, gel accent stripe: six color choices
Horn, concealed
Meets applicable USCG & Canadian Regulations
Navigation lights
NMMA and CE certified
Rub rail, rigid white vinyl w/flexible chrome insert
Stable-Vee® hull
Swim platform, aft
Ladder, angled, deep-reach, hidden, w/wide-step pads
Thru-hull fittings, stainless steel
Windshield w/walk-thru
Full aluminum frame
Curved glass, exclusive design

Tow Sports
Cockpit

Aquaflex™ white vinyl w/Silvertex™ color vinyl
Assist handle(s), stainless steel
Beverage holders, stainless steel
Cooler, built-in, under bench seat
Courtesy light
Cockpit drainage system
Engine compartment
Molded fiberglass engine compartment liner
Fiberglass floor with built-in footrests & drains
Interior, choice of Black or Navy major color, Silver or Rattan accent color
Port console
Premium texture trim
Glove box, lockable
Seating, bow
Bow seats, hinged cushions
Bow, backrest wrap-around
Seating, cockpit
Bucket seats, ComfortRide, dual, adjustable
Swim platform lounge seats
Side panels
rich hand-fitted vinyl w/comfort padding
Ski locker, in-floor
Molded fiberglass finish
Storage, bow
Beneath bow seats
Storage, cockpit
Beneath stern seat

Helm

Four Winns custom gauges, fog-resistant
Tachometer w/engine temp and oil pressure
Speedometer with fuel gauge and volt meter
Trim gauge
Dash
Precision textured trim
Top stitch-style detailing
Emergency engine shut-off
Lighted switches
Steering wheel, deluxe, tilt

Engine / Systems / Drive

Battery(ies)
Bilge blower
Bilge pump(s), automatic
Horn, engine warning
Power steering
Power trim and tilt
Wiring harness w/sealed connectors and tin coating for corrosion resistance

Entertainment
Trailer
Customer Care
- See more at: http://www.fourwinns.com/overview/H180# ... kK7j4.dpuf

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

What law says that a boat must have a fire extinguisher to be sold?

There are circumstances where O/B powered boats less than 26ft are not required to have any type of fire extinguisher.

Four Winns 2015 catalog does not even show fire extinguishing system to even be an option until the H230 and it is only an option for the sport boats. For the 2014 and 2015 cruisers it is an option for the V275 and standard on all others. The 2014 sport boat catalog would not open.

Fire extinguishers are one subject that apparently ric doesn't know anything about.

To the OP. On my 2004 180 OB, the extinguisher is mounted on the bulkhead under the "glove" box. It is mounted horizontally on a typical plastic clamp/holder. It has never been in the way but is also within easy reach when/if needed.

I don't have to throw grandma off the seat to get to it and I will at least have an opportunity to keep my family safe if the unfortunate should happen. I'll still need an insurance policy to replace the boat, b/c once a boat starts to burn it is seldom salvageable. But I at least demand the opportunity to extinguish the fire before it causes harm to anyone.

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

Thanks for the suggestions. They're very helpful!

FYI, New York State says:

"All mechanically propelled vessels, except outboards less than 26 feet in length and of open construction, must carry one B-I US Coast Guard approved fire extinguisher. Mechanically propelled vessels 26 feet to less than 40 feet in length must carry two B-I US Coast Guard approved fire extinguishers. Mechanically propelled vessels 40 feet to less than 65 feet in length must carry three B-I US Coast Guard approved fire extinguishers. Vessels 65 feet and greater in length should consult federal regulations.

On any vessel, one B-II extinguisher may substitute for two B-I extinguishers. Vessels equipped with approved fixed extinguishing systems may carry one less B-I extinguisher. Beyond the previously mentioned requirements fire extinguishers are also required whenever: a vessel is equipped with an inboard engine, where there are enclosed or permanently mounted fuel tanks on board, when there are enclosed living spaces, or there are closed stowage compartments in which combustible or flammable materials are stored."

So, the way I read it, that line about fuel tanks (red letters above) means I need a fire extinguisher even though I'll have an outboard engine. But guess what? Even if my boat were exempt, I'd still want it so that the thing doesn't blow up and send dismembered pieces of us 50 feet into the clear blue skies of the Adirondacks. I'd rather not be fish food.

Anyway, thanks again. No need to turn this into a debate. I was just looking for some advice on where to put a fire extinguisher in my new boat.

It's US Federal Law for all vessels with a permanently installed fuel tank to have at least one B-1 rated fire extinguisher. If your boat didn't in fact come with one you officially got shafted.

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1981 Columbia 8.7
2015 Yamaha FZR - 87mph - sold
2006 Yamaha GP1300R - sold
2003 Chaparral 215 SSI - sold
2009 Stingray 195CS - sold
2000 Four Winns H180 - sold
1976 O'day Daysailer II - sold
Rick's Four Winns H180 Mods/Upgrade Thread

Where in the law does it say it has to have a fire extinguisher to be sold? Being sold and operating are two completely differnet things.





If a boat under 26ft has a fixed system there is no requirement for a B-1 extinguisher.

Well, if he sea trialed the boat (oh god please say yes) it better have had one on there...

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1981 Columbia 8.7
2015 Yamaha FZR - 87mph - sold
2006 Yamaha GP1300R - sold
2003 Chaparral 215 SSI - sold
2009 Stingray 195CS - sold
2000 Four Winns H180 - sold
1976 O'day Daysailer II - sold
Rick's Four Winns H180 Mods/Upgrade Thread

Ours is mounted under the driver's dash, near where your left foot would be. Makes it easily accessible by both driver or passenger. I have yet to hit my left foot against it in the 4 years I've had the boat.

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1999 180 Horizon OB Fisherman Pkg
2013 Grand Cherokee 4x4 w/ 5.7 Hemi
San Antonio, TX

Can you mount it on the underside of the rear seat so it is visible and out of the way? The pics don't show underneath the backseat so I am just guessing. It may hinder storage but it will be out of the way. Only other spot other than next to the driver seat is tucking it up under the passenger dash but people may not be able to see it in a emergency.

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--2002 3880 Regal Flybridge | Twin Merc 8.1HO **Seven**
--2003 AB 13 VST Console Inflatable | Tohatsu 40hp TLDI **Phish'n ski**
--310 Mercury Inflatable | 1982 9.9 Johnson

I bought my used H190 from a boat dealer here in a northwest Chicago suburb. When we picked up the boat the salesman was going over everything on the boat and he pointed out the new fire extinguisher he was "throwing" in the deal. It was in a box under the seat. I questioned him about it because he was a pretty savvy salesman and I knew he wasn't "throwing" in anything. Somewhere I was paying for it. He smiled and said, "Well, it's required by Illinois law". He didn't say if it had anything to do with the length of the boat or the type of engine. Just that it was required by Illinois law. That was one if the few things he said, that I believed.

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Mac
2007 Four Winns Horizon 190

Here's an update: Now that we've had the boat for about a week, we've decided to keep the extinguisher in the rubber-lined glove box. That storage compartment is bigger and deeper than it looks in photos online, and it's funny that I never bothered to look at the size at the boat show earlier this year. It's still a quick grab in case we need it and now I don't have to drill into any fiberglass. Thanks for all the suggestions!