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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:21 pm 
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My 2005 Horizon 170 LE is in the shop today after a failed attempt to launch yesterday. Replaced the battery, still no start. I think it is the starter. My wife dropped off the Money Pit at the dealer and they kindly told her starters for that boat go for $300 dollars. Ain't happening! Anyone know the part number?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:41 pm 
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DOn't know OEM part number, but I know a lot of people around he just take theres to a local rebuilder for aeound half of that.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:57 am 
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VP part #'s are 3854750-1 or 3856003-3. The starter is exactly the same for VP, Mercruiser and OMC 3.0L motors. Easy to find for much cheaper than $300. Try these links.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:39 pm 
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I bought one a couple of months ago for my Volvo 4.3. NAPA had it but it was $256. The counter guy at NAPA said that the Marine rated ones were about double the price as non-marine. Mechanic friend installed it for $50.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:25 pm 
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I like to patronize local boat part sellers...I got an MES aftermarket marine starter for my 88 4.3 for about 150 or so about 3 years ago and it works well...took about a half hr to install...make sure you use the right bolts (if new bolts are included use them) and if a front mount is used make sure to use it because otherwise the starter can flex and break the housing. Other good aftermarket suppliers are ARCO and SIERRA. I was buying parts at my local mechanic (OMC/Merc dealer and great repair shop) and noticed they were using MES starters...the price is right...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:58 pm 
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I would see if you can test the starter before you go and replace it. I had issues with my boat not starting and it ended up being one of the 30 or 50 amp breakers on the engine. Cost $50 for a new one, but a lot cheaper than $200-300 for a starter. I would check your voltages at various points to make sure you don't have something wrong. Maybe post your symptoms and some of the more mechanically inclined folks here can assist in trouble-shooting more than I can :mrgreen: Just my .02, hoping to save you a few bucks.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:06 am 
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My starter is down and under the engine. Access is a little difficult. The issue is getting enough torque and room to move your arm to break free the bolts. I agree, use the new bolts.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:01 am 
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PDACPA wrote:
My starter is down and under the engine. Access is a little difficult. The issue is getting enough torque and room to move your arm to break free the bolts. I agree, use the new bolts.


But you have a V-6, the OP (missing?) has a 3.0L 4 cyl. which is a breeze to change the starter on.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:24 pm 
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Thanks for all of the tips and advice. I am glad to here the install is easy...I have replaced starters in a few car/trucks over the years.

The boat is currently at the dealer, waiting to hear back from them on the diagnostic. I am hoping it is something easy. The boat has been blowing ignition fuses left and right. When I took it out Sunday it cranked over once and the next time when I turned the key, it just made a clunking noise. I switched out the battery and still, just a clunking noise.

Thanks again for the help!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:33 am 
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Any updates ???????..............

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:04 pm 
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Update: After questioning the cost of the part with the boat dealership, they found one for less than half the origianal quote price. Since this one is warranted as well, I asked them to install. I have not yet picked up the boat because my truck broke down last weekend. I will get it this Friday and take it for a test drive.


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