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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:46 pm 
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I took some pictures of my set-up for the cupholder drains. I can't imagine they would change much between the two years. The drain hoses are fairly difficult to reach but can be done.

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Port side- top black fitting for cup holder - lower white cooler drain

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Starboard side

I would suggest getting a different cover too cover the entire boat. I take my bow and cockpit covers off and reinstall my full cover when done trailering just to keep out as much water as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:32 pm 
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thats them...thanks for taking the time to post.

a full cover is on my list but its a long list :) (specially considering keeping it dry after 14 years of it maybe being damp probably won't help much)

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:38 pm 
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Following up. Found the drains and operationally tested :)

Tubes have lost some elasticity so I think some small hose clamps will help in the off season.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:04 pm 
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Again, because I have time and folks are nice enough to answer.

How do I keep water from draining from bow cover through gap into cockpit. (see pics) Not alot of water I don't think but its an old boat with probably enough water damage as it is :)

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wet floor

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gap areas from outside

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And in this last one can the stitching be repaired on my home sewing machine? its like this all around cover.


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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:31 pm 
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What I would do is at the end of the season take the boat to a good canvas shop and have them re-do the cockpit cover so that it overlaps the bow cover. That is how mine was made and no water comes in there. I'd also get them to re-stitch all the seams, I have to get mine done every 4-5 seasons or so. My bow cover comes up under the cockpit cover and snaps to the bottom of the walk thru window frame and the cockpit cover overlaps it. The cockpit cover snaps to the fiberglass area between the windshield and the bow seats not to the bottom of the windshield frame. Some people have a zipper made to connect the two, but overlapping works fine.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:39 am 
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jontmiller wrote:
...a full cover is on my list but its a long list :) (specially considering keeping it dry after 14 years of it maybe being damp probably won't help much)

A full cover "exact fit" for your boat from Overtons is $355
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=70480&unum=2108927&wc_pn=66047P

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:07 pm 
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For sure get the cover for winter storage, I got a custom fit Taylor Made one about 7 years ago and it keeps it dry all winter.

And, even though you might not want to do this, I'd rip up all that wet carpet and let the deck dry out, then get that nasty carpet glue off and fix whatever rot might have started. All the lousy carpet does is cover up sloppy glass work and causes rot, more than anything else. If you get to it before the rot goes too far, you can avoid doing what I had to do, (full resto, ripped up deck, had stringers fixed, replaced foam, replaced deck, had new deck glassed in and gelcoated). You can 'glass over that deck and gelcoat it in non skid gelcoat or paint it with a marine deck paint with non skid in it. Carpet, has no place in an open boat, if you have plywood cored decks and you want it to last.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:53 pm 
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LouC wrote:
For sure get the cover for winter storage, I got a custom fit Taylor Made one about 7 years ago and it keeps it dry all winter.

And, even though you might not want to do this, I'd rip up all that wet carpet and let the deck dry out, then get that nasty carpet glue off and fix whatever rot might have started. All the lousy carpet does is cover up sloppy glass work and causes rot, more than anything else. If you get to it before the rot goes too far, you can avoid doing what I had to do, (full resto, ripped up deck, had stringers fixed, replaced foam, replaced deck, had new deck glassed in and gelcoated). You can 'glass over that deck and gelcoat it in non skid gelcoat or paint it with a marine deck paint with non skid in it. Carpet, has no place in an open boat, if you have plywood cored decks and you want it to last.

LouC: What year did they stop gluing carpet over plywood?
His 1998 looks glued in, but my 2000 is snap-in carpet over gelcoat.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:41 pm 
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It was probably around that time frame, but I know for a while the full fiberglass liner was an option, that cost a bit more but was well worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:00 am 
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I appreciate what your saying and no doubt thats the right thing to do. But its not my skillset, not something I would tackle and for the price I paid for the boat not something I want to pay someone else for. I only have 30 hours on it and although I enjoy tinkering with the engine and electrical, and everything works great so far, I just don't know enough of the history of this boat to put in a whole lot of money. If we really enjoy it next summer I will be in the market for a late model used boat, or if I fix everything else wrong with it and learn enough about the ins and outs of boat ownership I might take it on as a project.

For now I am going to dry her out very well before winter (comes out of the water today) with a dehumidifier build a nice winter cover and take good care of it in its current state.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:10 pm 
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jontmiller wrote:
build a nice winter cover and take good care of it in its current state.


jontmiller, meet Bobaloo, I believe he can help you: http://www.smwebhead.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9858

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:06 pm 
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NiagaraChillin wrote:
jontmiller wrote:
build a nice winter cover and take good care of it in its current state.


jontmiller, meet Bobaloo, I believe he can help you: http://www.smwebhead.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9858

Nice... I would grab that deal. Decent fitted cover for the price of a Walmart 1 size fits none.

That's the best money you could spend on keeping your boat dried out.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:05 pm 
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I got a custom cover from West Marine for my 200 Horizon. I then built a wood and fiberglass slat frame with PVC pipe to hold up the wood ridge beam to support it when it snows. I've used it for about 6 years and it keeps the inside dry all winter. It took a while to figure out how to make the supports but it was well worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:14 pm 
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Good canvas shop is what you need. Nothing beats a custom cover. Worth every penny.


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 Post subject: Re: keeping things dry
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:43 am 
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NiagaraChillin wrote:
jontmiller wrote:
build a nice winter cover and take good care of it in its current state.


jontmiller, meet Bobaloo, I believe he can help you: http://www.smwebhead.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9858



Good idea, how tight will that be on a 200? (his is a 180 )

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