LouC wrote:
OK...NOW...get this straight, European car testers...
This is a JEEP..an OFF ROAD vehicle...it has soft springs and long long travel to FLEX off road!!!
Try to take the VW and Volvo off road, they will rip the exhaust system and other things off.
The Jeep is an on/off road vehicle it cannot be expected to handle the same as a car, that will never or should never go off road. Case closed, silly Euro car testers!!!
And as far as quality goes, VW's rep in the US, is no better than Jeep, they break down even more and cost more to fix.
The Moose test is a simple double lane change test at 50mph... I assume you have 2 lanes in the USA? And I assume you have roads capable if 50mph...?
Then the test is valid and relevant. It simulates a vehicle travelling down the road and an object runs in front of you, like a child on a bicycle, or a dog/horse/bear or even a moose.. you swerve to avoid it with out killing the child and maintaining control of the vehicle so as not to harm other motorists or yourself.
It is not a car vs SUV thing. If any vehicle short of a truck cannot simply drive around that, then it is inherently unsafe. The Jeep was unable to achieve this at even 40mph.. I assume you have roads in the USA capable of 40 mph, and kids that ride bikes, and I assume like the rest of the world you find it distressing to kill a child..
It is not a European car tester thing, it is a basic vehicle stability thing.Yes the jeep grand cherokee may be an off road vehicle but so is the Toyota Landcruiser & Prado, Landrover Discovery, Mitsubishi Pajero, Nissan Patrol & Pathfinder and a number of others. These are all genuine 4 x 4 off road vehicles and will all comfortably achieve the double lane change. ( mind you the Toyota Hilux failed initially)
Like I said make sure you know what you are buying, the 2014/2015 models were revised and are now able to achieve this. If you must buy the jeep buy the current model.
Reputation of reliability is a subjective thing, and imported vehicles will almost always cost more to maintain as parts and expertise are not local. I will always try to buy locally made, but in Australia all 4x4 double cab Ute's (pick ups) are made off shore and imported.
My family safety is important to me and because of the unpredictability of driving I want to be able to choose my vehicle based on facts rather than the manufacturers marketing spin. Check out the Scientific tests and tell me you would drive a vehicle that was only marginaly better than now discontinued 2002 models in the same catagory, that was noted for the seats ripping out in crash tests, that was rated "Marginal" in side impacts, and that failed double lane change tests. OR would you buy a vehicle that provided better passive and active safety features. Do your research..
The case for vehicle safety is never closed. Choose wisely.
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