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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:03 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:48 am 
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Thats kinda what I thought, Michigan Wheel has an aluminum 15x17 for $99 bucks that I'm going to give a shot before picking up a stainless.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:52 pm 
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I love the job you did restoring your boat. I have a 1993 210 that is in great shape but could use a little attention and you have inspired me. This winter is will be getting new carpeting and a few other things. One thing I have not looked into is the aluminum around the windows. It has like a haze on it and needs some help to get it looking good. Did you have this on yours and if so, how did you deal with it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:55 pm 
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I did not have haze.

As an update to the boat thread. I have about finalized the new design for the sunpad/engine/rear bench reconstruction. All new wood. Complete redesign of the upulstry layout to work with the new bench seat with integrated backrest into the hatch top. All of the interior pannels will get new wood where needed and speakers will be relocated in the rear of the boat from under the bench up to the sides to help deliver the sound better. Bow inserts replicating the factory bow insert fillers (that I have never had). A matching snap in walk thru wind blocker will be made (this will also help contain the baby in the bow next summer). All of the seats and carpet will be reupholstered. And the stern hatch and seat will get new thick comfort foam.


That is the plan for my fall and winter. I am hoping that in 4 months off of boating I should be able to bang out a new interior and the boat will be like new. Also plan to give the motor a nice over hall.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:27 am 
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Steve K wrote:
I love the job you did restoring your boat. I have a 1993 210 that is in great shape but could use a little attention and you have inspired me. This winter is will be getting new carpeting and a few other things. One thing I have not looked into is the aluminum around the windows. It has like a haze on it and needs some help to get it looking good. Did you have this on yours and if so, how did you deal with it.

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If you are thinking of getting rid of the old carpet, get rid of it and do not replace it. Instead, get the deck re-finished by a 'glass shop. They can remove the nasty glue used for the carpet. Then have them re 'glass if needed, and finish it with non skid gelcoat. When you re-install your seats make sure to caulk/seal every screw hole with Life Seal/Life Caulk or 3M 4200. That, will make your boat last longer than anything else you can do besides getting a good cover that keeps out water. Carpet on a boat deck that is cored with plywood, is a creator of ROT...think about it would you put indoor outdoor carpet on your house deck, of course not. The boat companies like carpet because its cheap and covers up their crappy 'glass work. But it has ruined more boats than anything else. NO carpet in any open boat unless you live in the desert...LOL......

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:51 am 
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Lou is correct in his statement.. and i have been strongly considering laying new glass and rolling Gelcot down think. i saw a guy do a full restore on a 90s SeaRay bow rider.. he fully gutted the entire boat though.. i do not plan to do a full gut.. i have solid floors with no soft spots that i know of. The only rot issues that i have are the back rest support and a couple corners of the rear bench seat base.. I would Ideally love to have the cockpit drain into the bilge and out via the hull drain when washing the boat and out of the boat via the pump when on the water.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:58 am 
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Well parts and materials have started to be ordered for the fall winter interior Renovation.. It is official this boating season is over as our upcoming scedual of events and rapidly approaching baby boy is due in 7 weeks almost to the day. So my ambitious goal is to have the boat gutted of the interior and start to lay glass on the floor with in 2 weeks before the temps dip below the 70s this will make set up and cure that mch better as i do not have a heated shop.. i will have to build all of the new sunpad with integrated backrest, the new lower bench seat that will have tilt forward top and house a cooler within.

for those that do not know the plan.
Plan:
NEW sunpad hatch opening hinged at the stern instead of at the back rest as it is now.
NEW bench seat with dry storage (currently i have a pull out bed so the storage is useless)
NEW glassed cockpit floor with Kiwi grip non skid and top side paint. the cockpit will be self bailing into the bilge and can be pumped or exit via the hull drain.
NEW rear foam ont he sunpad
NEW upholstery design
NEW upholstery thru the entire boat.

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heavy duty 1/4' thick solid Stainless Steel polished mirror finish Hatch Hinges
4 gallons of resin
1708 cross stitched matt with chop sewn Fiberglass
9oz top glass

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assorted everything else lol.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN..

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:40 pm 
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sounds like this is going to be nice, keep us updated with pics!


on a side note, my little girls expected to arrive on a similar timeline as yours...Dec 6th shit gets real!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:22 pm 
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UPS said that the roll of 50"wide 1708 and the roll of 60" 6oz will arrive tuesday along with some new bubble popper rollers.. The resin is expected by the end of the week. I will need to get brushes and the graduated mixing quarts along with some mating ply so that i can get started building.. I am so excited to get this project started

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:23 pm 
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NOLV4V8 wrote:
sounds like this is going to be nice, keep us updated with pics!


on a side note, my little girls expected to arrive on a similar timeline as yours...Dec 6th shit gets real!


Yea little man is a big reason that i am doing this project. as i know the wife will want to haul more SH!T in the boat lol.. plus it NEEDS to be done

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:02 pm 
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You guys....when you're not sleeping...remember....you REALLY miss them when they head off to college...as mine did....so when they scream, don't sleep, etc, "This too will Pass" lol.....

the way I got into boating was that my son wanted to go on a neighbors boat, they were being not nice about it so I said, who needs em we're getting a boat. That was back in 2002, when he was 7.....
Since then he's been my boating and 4x4 buddy.....

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:52 pm 
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Well it has begun. I had a bad gut feeling i earlier this summer when the wife's port side seat was a bit loose and I had to spin it for fresh bit on the base screws. Well at this point I think yall can imagine the direction this is going.

For starters either factory the floor was glass or someone glasses over at some point.
SECOND. Some f***ing Moron at some point attempted to replace the wood u Der the seat bases. And well they FAILED.

The carpet is pulled. And I pulled the port "replacement board" the foam luckily does not look rotten thank the lord. I ran out of light. But basically it looks like i will need to add 2 more sheets of 3/4 marine ply to my list of materials. Not a huge issue. Hopefully.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:56 pm 
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Makes me all itchy just lookin at it. Well been there done that and I'm sure you'll make it better than it was new. This is why my mantra is get rid of the stinkin carpet!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:19 am 
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so i guess now the big decision is do i fully glass over the fuel tank or leave it as a removable hatch to allow access.

OPINIONS

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:11 am 
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Keep the hatch, it you ever have to replace the tank you'll wish you did.

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