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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:23 pm 
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Busacharger wrote:
The rope will rub across the very back of the Bimini top so we haven't used it while wake-boarding. Also the top that comes with it is a two piece unit that's kind of a pain in the A$$ to put up in the first place. I have no idea if a std. Bimini top would work with this top or not.


Actually, I haven't had any trouble with mine. The rope rubs until you get up, but other than that, it's great, and quick/easy to put up (I assume you're refering to the Arch and not the tower anyway)! The aft portion is only about a foot anyhow, so could probably leave it stowed in those circumstances, but I have strapped my tube to the "roof" without trouble below 30 mph.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:57 pm 
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The factory F.W. stainless tower is over $4,000.00 msrp, but depending on your dealer it could be had for less I'm sure.


I had the factory tower installed last spring and if you call the dealer to ask for a price it was in that 4k range. I did the build your boat on the four winns web site and at the time it was around 2k with a bimini just for it. So I called the local four winns guy and asked about the price more. They claimed there was nothing they could do. So I called the dealer I purchase the boat from, he is a little farther away but he was able to get the tower for the lower price. So I had them do it. They installed the tower and removed the old bimini and plugged the holes for less than $2500 with the bimini. So some dealers will work with you.

I see they have changed their web site since I purchased mine. It’s up to $2962.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:24 pm 
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Yes mine is the Arch and the back half of the top is over five foot long, so it looks as though it would rub a lot and when you come around the side of the boat. I'm afraid that the rope would hook the back corner of the top as you come back across the back of the boat, so we only use it when were not tied to the Arch.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:32 pm 
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Here's a picture of my Skylon tower with a view of rope connection in relation to the bimini.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:10 pm 
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I am reviving this thread! :mrgreen:

Spring has arrived in Southern California and I’ve got the itch for upgrades and of course, boating. 8)

Like most in this thread, I am in the market for a tower. Fortunately, three well known manufacturers are within 15 miles from my home:
*13th Floor Wakeboard Towers, Lake Elsinore, CA
*Air Boom, Inc., Canyon Lake, CA
*Skylon, Perris, CA (I prefer the Pro XT at this point)
Boatfun08's boat and tower look good IMHO.

And a not so well known company called:
*Xplosion Towers is also located in Lake Elsinore, CA

Here is a well known manufacturer who apparently has a west coast distributor:
*Xtreme Tower Products, Socal location unknown (Lake Arrowhead FW dealer recommended)
I think they may be referring to the Skylon Xtreme...The Service guy was unsure...(What???)

One other notable recommended by the San Diego area FW dealer. I have seen their towers, but I’m not a fan of the look and price, over 4K installed. They are:
*DGB Concepts, Poway, CA

As I continue to check out different companies I discovered approximately 20 different tower companies that are located within a 4-hour drive from me. Too many choices…And everyone is the best-Just ask them!

I have been told to consider the quality of the mounting blocks, welds and bends, costumer service, warranty, and reputation, etc…? As noted, everyone says there’re the best!

I’m interested in what FW forum members DO and DON’T like about your tower or towers you’ve seen lately and what YOU deem as important for other owners to consider. I find it odd that each FW dealer I consulted recommended someone different.

Thanks in advance for imput you may have.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:45 pm 
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I believe Monster and XTP are the same now, which is my "factory" FW tower. I think it blends well with the rest of my boat, and has been terrific with the integral bimini.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:52 pm 
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Extreme Tower Products (XTP) made the wake board towers for the 2006 H-240 Four Winns boats and the "cans" that hold the tower speakers. I bought an XTP tower mount rear view mirrow so it would match the rest of the rig. When i called XTP I was directed to Monster Tower http://www.monstertower.com/ for retail sales. I got good service there and I believe at the time - spring 2007 - that they carried the XTP Towers also.

You might try both XTP and Monster Tower Products.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:12 pm 
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I just tried http://www.monstertower.com to see if I could find the XTP tower on my 240; I could not. There are 30 or more pictures of Four Winns boats with the Monster Tower installed. Go to the website, then click on Customer Pictures, then Runabouts, and then select Four Winns. They are still offering the XTP mirrow, now $200 up from $180 a couple of years ago. It's a really great mirror.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:39 pm 
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Just m .02, but the forward slanting 'arch' looks very sharp on the 240 (I had it on mine).

I like the forward arch more than the swept back tower.

Might look at what you can have made up with that if you like that.

I don't know what they are charging for towers out there... but you might also try Samson. They are one of the first companies in the industry and they make a VERY nice product.

http://www.samsonsports.com/wakeboard.html

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:59 am 
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I too like the looks of the arch; but the stock tower has an attached froward and rear opening bimini top that is really convenient when you are actually towing someone from the top. I thought I would fold in the rear bimini when towing but have not. It is out of the way enough to leave the whole thing up without any problems (at least for the last 2 seasons).


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:30 pm 
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I wonder if this will help for those who have a problem with the rope hitting the rear of the bimini while using the tower:

On my 2008 SL 262 I noticed that when I had the biminis open the rope would hit the rear bimini when attached to the tower. I think that's an unacceptable design and can't believe that someone at Four Winns couldn't forsee that the tower might be used at the same time as the bimini. So, after our first outing as owners (which is when you really find this stuff out anyway), I called the dealer and shared my thoughts about the bimini/tower issue. For a $4500 + option, I felt there needed to be something done.

My dealer agreed, and decided to install "slides" into the rear bimini support poles. This allows us to basically slide the rear of the bimini down about 1 foot while using the tower, and it allows the rope enough room to not hit the bimini fabric. It's a very simple solution, and my dealer was able to get it done under Four Winns' warranty. It doesn't encroach on our head room in the cockpit, and it solves the problem. I can still slide the bimini to normal height when we aren't using the tower - they used those little catch buttons for each setting, so it's easy to do either way. I could probably post some pics when spring is official and I get out to the boat if needed.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:12 pm 
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leftlane wrote:
I wonder if this will help for those who have a problem with the rope hitting the rear of the bimini while using the tower:

On my 2008 SL 262 I noticed that when I had the biminis open the rope would hit the rear bimini when attached to the tower. I think that's an unacceptable design and can't believe that someone at Four Winns couldn't forsee that the tower might be used at the same time as the bimini. So, after our first outing as owners (which is when you really find this stuff out anyway), I called the dealer and shared my thoughts about the bimini/tower issue. For a $4500 + option, I felt there needed to be something done.

My dealer agreed, and decided to install "slides" into the rear bimini support poles. This allows us to basically slide the rear of the bimini down about 1 foot while using the tower, and it allows the rope enough room to not hit the bimini fabric. It's a very simple solution, and my dealer was able to get it done under Four Winns' warranty. It doesn't encroach on our head room in the cockpit, and it solves the problem. I can still slide the bimini to normal height when we aren't using the tower - they used those little catch buttons for each setting, so it's easy to do either way. I could probably post some pics when spring is official and I get out to the boat if needed.

Hope that helps!


Um, wow. :roll:
Mine could actually do that if I wanted, since the poles are telescoping. However, when pulling a skier, the rope doesn't come in contact with the rear end of the bimini. I don't know about tubing from the tower, I just don't see doing it myself.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:27 pm 
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Pretty cool of the Dealer. Sounds like a nice setup too, do post pics when you have a chance leftlane.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:56 pm 
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Walt wrote:
Um, wow. :roll:
Mine could actually do that if I wanted, since the poles are telescoping. However, when pulling a skier, the rope doesn't come in contact with the rear end of the bimini. I don't know about tubing from the tower, I just don't see doing it myself.


Not sure about the eye roll. My bimini is huge, and the rope definitely rubs on the fabric, which will eventually lead to a tear. Feel free to ignore if it is of no use to you.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:30 pm 
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Perhaps I'm picturing something different.

In my case, if I left the aft portion (only about 1 foot) of the bimini down, I'd hit my head (only 5'10") on it when stepping back into the boat from the swimdeck. The forward portion doesn't really have any room (or need) for such adjustment.

I've seen Busacharger's up close, and could imagine "issues" like these. But that's just one difference between the forward arch and the (aft) tower.

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