www.iFourWinns.com

The interior pix of RR's boat tell an interesting story, look at how much more room there is in the rear of the boat because it's an OB and not an I/O. More room, less weight, better performance, less maintenance. Here in salt water there is no contest. Fresh water well sure in a bigger boat an I/O is an economical power source, but smaller boats esp in coastal regions, OB is a good choice. Glad to see it and hope they make a bigger one.

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88 Four Winns 200 Horizon
4.3 OMC Cobra-4bbl
2002 Walker Bay 10/2012 Suzuki 2.5
2008 Walker Bay 8

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

Here is a pic of the new larger Four Winns OB powered boat, designed by their new French designer/engineer.
Continuing the "new direction" for the brand.

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One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista

Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy

LOL Cap'n!

After seeing the boat "in the flesh" at the Toronto Boat Show, both my wife and I agreed that we don't care for it. Now, that doesn't mean that I don't like a outboard powered bowrider, as a matter of fact, I would have prefered one. But when you stand in front of the new 180, the transom area just looks like a thrown together afterthought. It just doesn't flow with the rest of the boat.

Not a winning design IMHO.

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2009 H180 w/3.0 Merc
Homebuilt Minimax Hydro
2011 Zodiac Cadet 310

I'd like to see one of these boats in person.

Does anyone know if Hall's here in GR/Standale has one in their showroom?

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

I like it. Can I get one in bleu? What is the max HP rating? Will it fit 25 people?

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

They have the H180 OB at the Muskegon showroom. You can see it at the GR Boat Show 2/16 thru 2/20.

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One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista

Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy

I'll be comparing the new H180OB against the new 2000BRX Checkmate at the G.R. Mi show.

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Previous Four Winns: 2003 Freedom 180, 150 Johnson XL, purchased new July 2005, sold Sept. 07
Current Four Winns: 2002 Horizon 170, 115 Yamaha V4, purchased May 2010 from family friend.

There is NO comparison between those two boats. Except that they are outboard powered.
Checkmate is 20' long, has ability to handle over 150HP and costs over $40K
H180OB is barely 18 ft., and costs about $24K.

Rarely see a checkmate at the GR show, what dealer is bringing it ???

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One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista

Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy

Seelye-Wright Toy Store has picked up the dealership for this region. The reason I mention the BRX is that it also has a controversial design element. Also, isn't the H180 rated for 130 HP?
The BRX is $29k with a 115 Opti..........

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Previous Four Winns: 2003 Freedom 180, 150 Johnson XL, purchased new July 2005, sold Sept. 07
Current Four Winns: 2002 Horizon 170, 115 Yamaha V4, purchased May 2010 from family friend.

Note, none of their showroom's open until 1/31/11. So no need to hurry.

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One of 4 Previous (Sold) Boats:
2000 Four Winns 268 Vista

Current Boat: 2004 Chaparral 235 ssi cuddy

Thanks for the heads up.

That seems like something they would put on their website.

I plan to go to the GR show. I'll look at it then.

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

I just put in for Friday off

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Previous Four Winns: 2003 Freedom 180, 150 Johnson XL, purchased new July 2005, sold Sept. 07
Current Four Winns: 2002 Horizon 170, 115 Yamaha V4, purchased May 2010 from family friend.

Ok, i wasn't ripping on any one persons boat, only the looks and that of the new OB H180. As for that boat having the same performance as our H2210SS......lolololol, NO Way, not a chance!!! That new H180 OB has nothing on the H210ss. From front to back, power plant and over all design that 180 doesn't compare, not one bit IMHO!


Jim

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2011 H210 SS
MerCruiser 350 MPIC/Bravo I 300hp
"Crooked Wake"


Prior Boat
1999 Bayliner 1950 CL

I stand by what I said. Note that for the performance comment I was talking about my boat. Also note that I stated "similar" performance up to 47-48 MPH. You have the top end covered for sure.

Based on your comments, I would assume that you have never actually played with an outboard powered boat. You might want to give it a shot some time. You might be surprised.

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs

I may have been a little "grumpy" when I posted my last response.

I meant to include things about how nice verpoort's H210 SS looks. It is a fantasitc looking boat. I'd be more than happy to own one. It is a "sport" boat in all the right ways.

I also meant to mention that outboards aren't for everyone. I understand that some people don't like the appearance. I have to admit that while I am completely used to the appearance of an outboard, I like the flowing lines of the H210 and other boats of similar design.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Especially when it comes to "beauty".

I also meant to mention that I would guess this new H180 OB with a 130 HP E-tec will perform pretty close to, if not slightly better, than my boat.

I guess some of my grumpiness lies in the general boat buying public as a whole. There seems to be this stigma attached outboard motors that is either completely irrational or based on bad or out of date information.

Outboards are highly engineered and extremely specialized for the application they are intended for. There are very few compromises in their design compared to automotive based sterndrives.

Pound for pound (HP for HP) an outboard will outperform pretty much any I/O. It will be really interesting to see side by side comparisons of the H180 I/O with a 135 (3.0) VP/Merc compared to a H180 OB with a 130 HP E-Tec.

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Current Operational Boats:
'04-Four Winns 180 Freedom 150 HP Evinrude
'72-Chris Craft Commander 31 Sedan Twin-350Qs