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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:41 pm 
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Hi everyone,

I've purchased my first boat, my GF and I ordered a new H190. We are super excited for the boat to arrive, but we need to get some things ordered before we can get out on the water. Here is my list so far:

-Fenders, I'm thinking I should get the 6.5" diameter ones. Any particular brand I should stick with? I've shopped Taylor Made, Polyform, & Dockmate. Would standard fenders work, or would I be better off with the "low freeboard" fenders?

- Life vests
- Throw-able floatation pad
- Fire extinguisher
- Compass
- Handheld GPS
- Air Horn
- Spare bulbs/fuses
- Spotlight
- Flashlight
- Rechargeable navigation/anchor lighting (in case of boat lighting failure)
- Jump start box
- Cooler
- Anchor and rope/chain
- Fender lines
- Dock lines


Anything other necessities I should be looking at, besides the cold beverages?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:45 pm 
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If you "ordered" a new boat it should already come with:

Fire Extinguisher
Live Vests
Throwable Cushion
Compass
Cooler
Anchor
Dock Lines.

Any good dealer includes the above items when purchasing a new boat.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:57 pm 
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Hmmm, I'll have to check with my dealer to see what is included in new boat purchase. My sales rep did not mention anything specifically, but as you stated, hopefully some items will be included.

The dealer I purchased from is one of the largest in MN, and comes highly recommended from other FW dealers in neighboring states.

I'll email them, and report back.

If you see anything I'm missing from my list, please let me know.

Thanks again,
Steve


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:27 pm 
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Bail bucket and a paddle for sure.
Check your state regulations for the minimums and look at the USCG Aux. for other suggestions.
On my list is a can of mixed nuts, the cheese in the squirt cans and townehouse crackers. Never leave the dock without them.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:15 pm 
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Life jackets. Throwable. Beer.

If you're in a Sea Tow area, that's the only other accessory you need.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:22 pm 
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I would add a telescoping boat hook to the list. It can be one of the most useful things on a boat and a really nice one doesn't cost much, yet few have them. One example:

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/garelick ... Mgod7W0AOA

I'm partial to Polyform fenders, but any of those should be fine.

Dock lines - the nicest ones you'll ever find are these:

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... rzJG_t9NhA

... but wait until they go on sale, which happens about twice a year. In the mean time, any good rope will suffice.

As to the beer, I'll let others comment since mine stays at the dock for when the boating is over for the day. Things can turn real bad, real fast, on the water. I want to be the guy with the clear head.

Sounds like you're doing your homework and giving good thought to what you'll need. Welcome aboard.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:22 pm 
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Alright ha, I'll give you a list of what's really on my boat.

Two 3/8x15ft dock lines coiled up ready to be used at any time.
Two small fenders in the ski locker.
On the normal 4 life jackets in the trunk, more if needed on a particular day.
Throwable.
Spare prop and prop wrench.
Two fire extinguishers (one hand held, one halon system in engine compartment).
Zip ties.
Basic basic tool set (multi-tool, cheap "evolv" brand sockets and wrenchs, crescent wrench, philips and straight screw drivers).
Quart of engine oil.
Quart of outdrive oil (mercruiser you can check/fill in engine compartment).
Flares are not needed unless you boat in coastal waters (i dont).
Nav lights are LED no spares needed.
Fuses are resetable breakers no fuses needed.
Small flashlight.
Second small anchor in trunk for those windy days
Magma Grill with grill tool kit and two bottles of gas
Solo cups
Paper plates, plastic silverware
Salt/pepper/steak seasoning
Vietnamese 3+1 instant coffee (amazing stuff!!!)
12v water boiler if someone wants coffee
10" fry pan
Goodies powder and benedryl
6 bottles of water and usually a gatorade
Single serving tonic waters (4-6)
Usually 6 cherry flavored diet ginger ale cans
Smaller bottles of: Crown, Goose, tanqueray, sailor jerry, jose quervo, bacardi
Some single serving sized snack bags
Stove top jiffy pop (at least one) for the grill
Suntan oil spf 8, spf 30, and regular lotion
A half dozen LED candles
Iphone and Android chargers
24" 1080p TV
Android HTPC comptuer to run TV that wifi tethers of my cell to watch movies at night
Hard installed 6000btu A/C system with it's own dedicated battery bank/inverter (8+hrs of AC or heat)
First of the year I'll have installed a 120v outlet in cabin
Small fishing pole and tackle box
Honda eu2000i inverter generator
5 gallon bucket with cleaning supplies inside (mold remover, wash soap, brush, sponge)
50ft extension cord
Windshield mount for phone
Floating band for sunglasses
Floating case for cell phone
Two big pillows
comforter
two throwable cushions
port-o-potty
Boat snap in cover
Camper canvas
Dry box full of important papers
BIG american flag for holidays
Small american flag attached to bimini support pole
12v vacuum
12v air pump


I think that's it. All fits 100% clean and out of sight. It's all about your organizational skills and things to keep things organized. For example all the kitchen stuff I keep organized in something from Office Depot designed originally to keep desk stuff nice. I keep my boat cleaner than my house. I wash it twice a week. Being you have a bowrider you won't have nearly the storage space I have. The only trade-off I had to make was I had to remove the fresh water tank for the sink to store the generator. Big deal.

I'm currently single but when I had my last GF we kept a much larger supply of non-perishable food. I like the boat to have no less than a solid weekend food/water at all times.

What do I use the most? Every time I use the boat? At least one dock line and a philips head screwdriver. There's always a screw coming loose somewhere.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:54 pm 
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What you should bring depends on where you are going, for how long, and what you are doing.

I would add:
Good First Aid kit with sun burn treatment (aloe or???)
Extra caps or hats and sunglasses for guests that forgot theirs.
Wet Wipes, paper towel roll, TP,
Hand/dish soap
Boat cleaning supplies for glass, fiberglass, and upholstery.
Towels
Sweatshirts or jackets for cool weather conditions
Maybe a dry change of clothes
Boat toys.....tubes, skis, noodles, etc.
Your favorite tunes to go with your favorite boat foods.

If you are like Ric, maybe the boat adds since I don't know how he can put all that stuff in his 215 Chapparal :D :lol: :P 8) :wink: Sorry, Ric, much of your list does make good sense. It just reminded me of several instances of trying to put 10 gallons of stuff in a 5 gallon container. Congrats on the new boat. I hope you enjoy it as much as we have ours.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:30 pm 
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+1 on a bar of hand soap. We take ivory, for one it is eco friendly but more important, it floats.
Hey surface we have a term for 10 gallons of "stuff" in a 5 gallon bucket. Always known that as a BLIVET.
But seriously, there are the minimum things required by regulation, the rest is tailored to your style and type of boating that you do. Part of the fun of getting started is learning what you need and what you don't.
Don't forget a note pad and pen to make lists as you realize things you'll want, oh and take a camera.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:19 am 
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Thanks for all the tips guys - keep them coming if there any any more.

After looking into boat hooks, I ran across this one: theboatloop.com

Anyone have experience with any of their models?

It seems that it may be easier to grab onto pylons and cleats with the loop - thoughts???

Thanks again,
Steve


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:26 am 
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First off where are you going to be using the boat? Lakes? If so can you get charts of water depth, obstructions, etc? Oh and get REAL GPS/Sounder, a nice small one that reads the bottom well, is the Garmin 441S or similar, small enough to fit large enough to read. You want a real depth sounder esp if you can't get charts of your boating area.
Next, new boater? Take a safe boating course for sure
Third, insurance, even if its not required, you must have insurance to cover if any one gets hurt, or of you bend up a prop on a rock or whatever.
Next, I like to have a dual battery system with a switch even on a small boat. I don't like jump packs, for one they can make sparks in the bilge which can be dangerous and for another if you don't charge it regularly it will be dead or too weak to help when you need it.
Next, the bilge pump system on many new boats is a sad joke. You spend 40-50K on one of these shiny new boats and they give you a pitiful 500 gph pump. Really! Well if you want to be prepared, go get a 2000 gph Rule, hook up a pair of battery clamps to it and a long bilge pump discharge line. Then if the boat ever starts taking on water (can happen) drop that sucker in the bilge, hook it up to the battery and hang the discharge over the side. It will pump that bilge out real fast while the pigmy pump they give you struggles.
Last towing insurance if it covers the lakes you will be on. If there is no coverage there find out what the locals do.
I have full coverage from Boat US and used it last year for the first time. And I also have a policy to cover trailer break downs. Well worth it.
I leave the silverware and paper plates at home. I have enough stuff to do a tune up and oil change and change the gas filter right on the mooring. Could change out a starter there if I had to.

Just some practical tips from an old backyard mechanic from Long Island NY....salt water and all...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:53 am 
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Lots of good stuff listed. Not sure I saw it mentioned above but a 50+ foot long rope that is NOT a dock line or anchor line is nice to have. Never know when you might need a tow or come across someone who needs one and when that happens you don't want the boats to be 10 feet apart in wind or chop with one of them dead in the water. I once towed someone in with a 25 foot rope in chop/wind and it scared the hell out of me that they were coming up on my swing platform every time we hit some large waves.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:38 pm 
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If you are planning to make a significant purchase of gear soon, it looks like Overtons (www.overtons.com) is offering $100 off of purchases of $500 or more until tomorrow night. Also $50 off purchase of $250 and $20 off purchase of $100.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:23 am 
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Sharp knife in case you have to cut a line, cheese or summer sausage,

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:27 am 
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Ah. Rick's lesson of the day. You never tow a boat behind you with a rope like someone mentioned. The correct procedure to tow a boat is to reef it along side you. You loose almost no maneuverability. 100% safe.

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