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Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
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Author:  Jekyll [ Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
This boat comes with an Alpha 1 drive, but I'm wanting to install a Bravo 3 drive for holeshot and other advantages. Anyone have any advice on this?
Thanks!
Author:  deafwish [ Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
What other advantages? :?
Fit a Mercury High Five! 8)
Author:  Jekyll [ Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
deafwish wrote:
What other advantages? :?
Fit a Mercury High Five! 8)

How would one go about ordering one? What info would I need to determine pitch etc and order one?
Thanks again
Author:  GottWhat [ Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
What engine do you have in your 200? I am thinking that for the cost of the parts needed (a B3 outdrive including props will set you back $5,000 to $8,000) plus the labor it would better for you to sell the boat and buy one with a B3 or DP. In the mean time, you are better off buying a different prop to improve holeshot.

I try to tell people not to buy a boat with a Alpha 1, in fact I just talked my friend's dad out of one two weeks ago (Rinker 18' with 3.0L 135 hp). He ended up getting a Four Winns H200 with Volvo Penta 5.0GXi (270 hp).
Author:  GottWhat [ Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
deafwish wrote:
What other advantages? :?

Besides the Bravo drives being much stronger, the B3 advantages include:

Better acceleration

Straighter tracking at all speeds due to torque cancellation

Better coupling of horsepower to water (especially over 260hp) for the same prop diameter

Outdrive vs. Engine Mounted Raw-Water Pump – A major disadvantage of the Alpha I is its outdrive mounted raw-water pump. Servicing the pump requires removing the lower-unit of the outdrive. This is fairly easy to do on land, but impossible in the water. It also requires a full change of outdrive oil and is pretty messy. The Bravo (and Volvo) drives use a pully driven pump mounted on the engine. Depending on your engine installation, servicing can still be a nightmare, but at least you don’t have to deal with gear oil or handling an awkward lower unit.

Dog Clutch vs. Cone Clutch – The Alpha I uses a “dog” clutch design for shifting. The dog clutch is known for its reliability, but not for its finesse. Alpha drives go in and out of gear with a pronounced “clunk”. Bravo (and Volvo Penta SX/DP) drives use a “cone” clutch which offers smoother shifting that is perhaps a touch less distinctive to passengers. Either way, the difference is mostly aesthetic and not a big factor on performance.

Also, if you buy a Bravo 1 you can swap a Bravo 3 lower on in the future. Same with a Volvo Penta SX, you can swap in DuoProp lower. You have to swap everything over if you have an Alpha 1.
Author:  afw200 [ Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
GottWhat wrote:
What engine do you have in your 200? I am thinking that for the cost of the parts needed (a B3 outdrive including props will set you back $5,000 to $8,000) plus the labor it would better for you to sell the boat and buy one with a B3 or DP.

I try to tell people not to buy a boat with a Alpha 1, in fact I just talked my friend's dad out of one two weeks ago (Rinker 18' with 3.0L 135 hp). He ended up getting a Four Winns H200 with Volvo Penta 5.0GXi (270 hp).


I thought ric was not posting here for the summer ?? :?
Author:  rpengr [ Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
GottWhat wrote:
...I just talked my friend's dad out of one two weeks ago (Rinker 18' with 3.0L 135 hp). He ended up getting a Four Winns H200 with Volvo Penta 5.0GXi (270 hp).

You are a good friend to have!
Author:  Paul I. [ Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
The raw water setup is different. Call the plumber!!!!!
Author:  GottWhat [ Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bravo 3 drive on 2014 H200SS
afw200 wrote:
GottWhat wrote:
What engine do you have in your 200? I am thinking that for the cost of the parts needed (a B3 outdrive including props will set you back $5,000 to $8,000) plus the labor it would better for you to sell the boat and buy one with a B3 or DP.

I try to tell people not to buy a boat with a Alpha 1, in fact I just talked my friend's dad out of one two weeks ago (Rinker 18' with 3.0L 135 hp). He ended up getting a Four Winns H200 with Volvo Penta 5.0GXi (270 hp).


I thought ric was not posting here for the summer ?? :?

Someone has to pick up the slack!

rpengr wrote:
GottWhat wrote:
...I just talked my friend's dad out of one two weeks ago (Rinker 18' with 3.0L 135 hp). He ended up getting a Four Winns H200 with Volvo Penta 5.0GXi (270 hp).

You are a good friend to have!

The skeg was completely gone on the Rinker he was looking at. The owner was trying tell him the boat works fine without it and the skeg is not needed. Luckily, he walked away.

That is when he called me. He just sold his supercharged PWC so I knew he would be unhappy with a boat that made 100 less HP than the PWC. He was going to pay cash for the boat because he didn't know you can finance for 10 years on boats for ridiculously low APR from his credit union. Now he has twice the HP, near mint condition, better brand/quality and a chunk of cash still in savings.
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