www.iFourWinns.com

I have been reading and learning a lot about Horizons/Four winns from this forum. I came across this one for sale near me. I emailed the listing and owner sent me this info on it...

"...the boat does not take on any water. It runs and shifts as it should, interior is clean, and hull is solid. However, it does have some small issues. When you drop from a high speed down to an idle it tends to stall. This doesn't happen when you idle down slowly. Other than that the it runs very solid and the engine has no problems. I've replaced the steering wheel assembly, steering cable, and the power steering actuator, but the steering is a little stiff at higher speed. The only thing left is the power steering pump which is fairly cheap. Ive put new horn, fuel cap, fuel gauge sending unit also on the boat."

I've read on the forum her about the stalling issue some, but seen different ideas. Maybe the accelerator pump, maybe fuel filter.

Wondering thoughts on how big of a "potential fix/problem?"

here's the listing: 5.0 cobra efi, 1994 220 Horizon

https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/boa/5148836651.html

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1997 Four Winns Horizon 200 Volvo 5.7L GLi
Towed: 2004 Ford F-150 Lariat 4x4
Riverview, MI

Great hull, but an injected engine of this vintage could have it's challenges.
It won't be the Accelerator Pump, as it doesn't have a carburettor.

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2011 Four Winns H180 SS.
Aussie built Mustang 2800.
SOLD - 1997 Four Winns Horizon RS

Thank you deafwish. I'm thinking stay away from EFI all together? You think that?

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1997 Four Winns Horizon 200 Volvo 5.7L GLi
Towed: 2004 Ford F-150 Lariat 4x4
Riverview, MI

Entirely your call, but repairing something of this vintage with a carb, will be peanuts!

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2011 Four Winns H180 SS.
Aussie built Mustang 2800.
SOLD - 1997 Four Winns Horizon RS

The other challenge will be this:
Many times specialized parts for marine engines are made for a limited # of years. So if you need an electronic ignition module or the ECM that runs the EFI one day you coukd be SOL because the parts are NLA!!
With old boats you are better off with less advanced systems like carbs and points n condenser ignition because these can be sourced in the aftermarket easily.

I'd check on the Crowley Marine website to see if these parts are available .
That's a Ford Marine engine; just like a Mustang GT. Good engine but even things like exhaust manifolds are hard to find.
I see in the pic the outdrive is an original OMC Cobra not the joint venture with Volvo model. So that tells me the engine package is actually a 1993, because that was the last year the original Cobras were sold.

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88 Four Winns 200 Horizon
4.3 OMC Cobra-4bbl
2002 Walker Bay 10/2012 Suzuki 2.5
2008 Walker Bay 8

1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0/Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi/Quadradrive II

As mentioned it is basically a 5.0 EFI from a Mustang, and the electronic ignition parts are just standard Motorcraft as I have replaced some of them on my boat. The ECM is NLA but there are ways to get around that subbing in another ECM from a Mustang. Stalling when coming down out of throttle sounds like it could be a bad idle air bypass motor as it cant supply enough air to keep it running when the throttle blade closes, rather cheap ~$50 part that can be purchased from any auto parts store. You can also use a standard automotive Ford EEC-IV OBDI scan tool using the diagnostic port on the starb side of the engine to see if it has any stored engine codes.

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2008 H200 Frenzy Edition 5.0 GXi

1993 Horizon 190 5.0 EFI (Sold)