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Bill,

You are right!

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Brett DiMichele

Didnt mean to start a battle. The only reason I am using the existing thru hull is because I do not use the one for the head. The head isnt even connected to the thru hull. Its just sitting there not being used. As for the discharge side. Why not put a y on the galley sink thru hull. That should be ok.

Oh I don't think anyone's "battling" here. Brett's been great help in lots of threads here, I wouldn't even begin to think of any of this as an argument over the issues. More like a good, developing discussion where we all learn a bit from it. That's just my take, I hope others feel the same way. I'm sure one of you guys holds the answer to some question I'll need answered someday, so bear with me until then!

If the galley through hull backs up for some reason (like gunk from the sink plugging it) you then risk sinking the boat when the AC pump starts cranking, under power, a LOT of water back up through the sink drain. Now, if it's plumbed properly (or at least similarly to the 348) then the galley sink runs to a sump first. From there it's pumped (by a powered bilge pump) up through a one-way valve and overboard. That's how the 348 galley works. But the head sink doesn't run to the sump, it runs straight overboard. So, in theory, if you tied into the galley sink line after where the one-way valve is situated then it might be less of a problem. But then you're putting an awful lot of faith in that cheapie one-way valve resisting the power-driven pump pressure.

I really, really, don't want to seem like a wet blanket to this idea, but I really don't see much in the way of 'good ideas' that justify taking the short cut. I'm not the kind of guy that likes saying "I told you so" when someone else gets screwed. So, maybe I'm being overly cautious, but still....

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

My galley sink goes right to the thru hull. Going to put a y connector towards the hull side. The only way the ac could back up is if the very end of the thru hull got gunked up. We are pretty good about keeping everything clean. Even when we wash the dishes they are usually cleaned of all the crap anyway. Dont want all that food and stuff floating around the boat in the water. Speaking of the galley, thats a whole other problem that I am in the process of solving. I hate the way the faucet is so short. If you are not careful, It dumps water all over the counter and not into the sink. i have found a nice replacement Sandvick faucet that I will be installing as well. That should take care of that problem. I will keep everyone posted on that project as well.

Not that I know much on this topic but...If boat builders could get away with one less thru-hull because I would think it is cheaper to produce, they would likely do so. Since all the cruisers I have owned send the a/c water directly overboard, I would think there is a valid reason for such. Attempting to circumvent this might not be a great idea. But that is just my silly logic speaking.

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2005 Maxum 3100 SE

As I said in my other response, I will still discharge overboard and not into a sump. The shower goes to the sump pump in the floor. The galley and head sinks both go right over the side. Shouldnt be a problem using that. I am looking at the easiest way to install this. Why drill another hole if its not needed?

My wife hates the galley faucet and has been begging me to replace it. Has anyone done this and if so, what did you replace it with? What kind were you replacing yours with? Pictures?

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"Where Da Go"
2002 248 Vista
Lafayette, IN
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I bought a Scandvik from ebay. Its one of these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... :IT&ih=021
Looks to be a straight forward install. I already have half the boat apart anyway. I have learned that if you have a few projects to do, do them all at once while you have everything apart. The underwater lights are a breeze because the aft cabin is all taken apart to do the ac. The faucet should be easy because of the ac install as well. I will do a write up and pic post as soon as I get it all done.

If you've got enough room below you may want to consider a faucet that has a pull-out hose. They're really handy for both cleaning and stuff like filling containers. There's nothing about the boat that requires any sort of special "marine" plumbing, at least not down below. Up in the cockpit or on the transom, sure, you'd want outdoor/marine grade. Our 348 has one and it's handy. What's also helpful is it can switch between regular flow and spray mode.

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

248 is your OE faucet different than mine? I don't have any complaints about my OE unit. I did add a PUR water filter on the end of it but other than that, it works fine.

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Brett DiMichele

Probably the same faucet. Works ok with high pressure, but low pressure just causes the water to run to the back of the counter. Really annoying. Cheap fix for a problem.

My add on PUR filter took care of that (19.00 and it filters the water for a great cup of joe)

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Brett DiMichele

Hey Woggy
Any luck with the ac yet? Finally got mine all in. All works well. The only thing left is to come up with an intake grill. I ended up drilling for new thru hulls. It was just easier in the end. After you drill one hole, its not so bad. I will try to post some pictures and what I did when I get a chance. Basiclly I followed Als. It was very helpfull. I ended up putting the ac on the right side of the cabinet instead of the left.
The other projects are done as well. The tab mounted led lights, Galley faucet, Green led under platform lights, XM radio install, shelving in the only cabinet and the last one is a 110 outlet in the cockpit. Still do not understand why they never put one of those in either.
Here is what my green leds look like.

Waterproof, low voltage and bright. Should make finding the boat at night in mooring feild a tad easier.

You guys are killing me. I installed a Windlass, going for the green LEDs as soon as they arrive and I have been dying to try an AC install. That looks brutal on Al's. I love that guy, he is nuts!

Jay

Heya 248 Vista,

SInce I had the idea for the green LEDs and found out I was copying you, I am doing the AC also (last post). I am going to try to follow Al's guide but I was wondering if you had anything to add. Also, what did you purchase exactly. It makes me nervous that Al has (had) a 268 and wonder if a smaller unit is more appropriate. Do you have any actual receipts, or complete inventory purchase that you could post? I know I am asking a lot but I want to get this job done in the next 2 weeks (launch date) so I want to order everything I can up front. The closest boat store is about 25 minutes away and I already make about 94 trips there per season. I am trying to keep it under 100 trips this year since it is a West Marine and their prices completely suck.

Thanks again!

Jay