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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:13 am 
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Okay.....so, I go check out my genset, trying to find where the impeller is located.....the manual is pretty much zero help. So, I call Kohler..get a service tech who looks up in the service manual and apparently, it is located to the right of the main panel (which faces the starboard engine).


Your owners kit should have included a full set of manuals for everything on board. Mine came with a set of Kohler docs. Along with factory manuals for everything else (microwave, radio, engines, AC, etc).

You can download manuals online. Here's a few links to visit for them:

http://www.marinegenerators.info/kohler/
Operation manual: http://www.marinegenerators.info/kohler/lit/TP5985.PDF
Installation: http://www.marinegenerators.info/kohler/lit/tp5982.pdf (see pgs 28 and 29)

This one's good for overall genset servicing info:
Service training manual: http://www.marinegenerators.info/kohler/lit/tp5573.pdf

I'm assuming you have a soundshield on it, right?

The impeller on the 5E series is located at the same end as the genset control panel (at box on the top). Refer to the above PDFs for side-view diagrams. You do not need to remove the longer soundshield side panel, it's the short side you're interested in here for the impeller.

On that side there's a small access panel that pops out. There's a raised lip you pull to release the panel, then it slides out. I don't have pictures, sorry. There should be a large (1-1/8") hose coming out near that panel. On the 348 that hose really gets in the way... Once that panel is off you'll see four bolts that hold a plate onto the seawater pump. The impeller is inside that. Loosen and remove those four bolts (I think they were 11mm). Once they're off you'll see the impeller. Also note there's an O-ring on the pump. Impellers kits come with both the impeller AND the o-ring. It's a good idea to replace them both at the same time.

So I'm wondering if you're looking at the correct end of the genset. That exhaust hose requires a pretty fair amount of room to get out of the side of the box. I've never seen the engine room in a 318 but I'd find it very hard to imagine they'd put that end of the genset so close as to make it impossible to service the impeller. If you'd take a few pictures of your setup we might be able to better help (use photobucket.com to host them).

The 348 has the genset on the port side. The water heater is on the starboard side, tucked TIGHT under the starboard cockpit seating. It's is very difficult to get at the whole heater. That is, until you remove the seating box above the heater. The WHOLE section comes up. You have to remove the upper seat back, then the hinged seat bottom and then you can unscrew and lift out the whole base. Yes, it seem extreme. But it makes it MUCH easier to get to the stuff on the starboard side of the engine room. Here's two pictures of mine:

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:32 am 
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wkearney99....THANKS a bunch for all the detail!!! I remember seeing that about the starboard seat now, but completely forgot about that.
Maybe, just maybe I can get to it through there.....hmmmmm

No, mine does not have a soundshield.
The control panel is on the starboard side. There is probably a foot or so clearance between the control panel and the wall, but because of the limited size of the engine room on the 318, it is virtually impossible for a man to get around to that side through the engine room. I am surprised they have it in there like that as well....considering that the impeller is probably one of the few things the genset will require "regularly".....I'm guessing its because of that seat removal option....

I really appreciate your input/help! I won't be able to get back down to the boat until Thurs. or Friday, but will try and get pictures at that time.
Thanks again.

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:42 am 
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Look what I found..... :D

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2861

Thanks again everyone!

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:01 am 
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Yeah, getting to the genset impellar on the 318 SUCKS.

Your best bet is to disassemble the back and pull up the access floor. You'll be surprised how easy it is to get to at that.

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:59 am 
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cougarcruiser wrote:
Yeah, getting to the genset impellar on the 318 SUCKS.

Your best bet is to disassemble the back and pull up the access floor. You'll be surprised how easy it is to get to at that.


And I thoughth it was hard on a 268....I just had to remove both engine room covers.....

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:46 am 
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the info. and pictures, especially cougarcruiser and the other thread you had going with pictures of your 318.

It was very easy to remove the seat and the floor on the starboard side.....and once that was done, changing the impeller was truly a 5 minute job. Luckily, that was the problem with my generator, as the impeller was chewed up pretty badly.

Thanks again.

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:35 pm 
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It may be hard to get to, but just knowing that a 20 dollar impellar and some labor of love time fixes that problem is great! Alot better than a $1000 bill for some other issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Kohler Generator
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:04 pm 
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Shortly after I had a problem with a plugged sea strainer causing a LOC alarm my impelar crapped out. 34 hours on the genset and a bad impellar just doesn't seem right. They are changing it while the annual is beiing done I just hope I don't get killed with the labor charge. Warranty, maybe but not my luck. The dealer told me that it is a a nasty one to get on a 318.

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