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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:51 pm 
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Steven what kind of load did you have to achieve those impressive numbers? Full fuel, water, how many people on board? What rpm were you running? Not much info out on what the boat does with stern drives in terms of performance and fuel economy.


I had full water half fuel 4 persons and most of our gear. Ran about 3800- 4000 rpm's

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:59 pm 
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Ok, Now I am getting worried.

Went out overnight last night. When we got to the boat last evening to go out, we had wet carpets a wet glove box (inside) the dunnage box on the transom was soaked inside. Our ropes and fenders were all wet. I can fix the wet carpets by spraying the bimini with water repellant, and kinda expect that to leak but the other wet areas....anyone else observe this?

The dunnage door does not seal tightly is this unique to our 358? How about the glove box? We have the eisenglass up with the bimini for now.

Galvonic isolator system view in the electrical panel is not showing green when on shore power.

Found both gear lube reservoirs with issues. Port engine reservoir is leaking into the bilge, starboard is completely empty and wasn't last week when I looked.

Cockpit LED lights seem to be always on. When you actually turn the switch on they get brighter. Is this normal? The only way to turn them completely off is with the ship's systems switch. Let me know what you find new 358 owners.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:09 pm 
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Steven - We spent the night on our boat last night and woke up this morning to a heavy steady rain. I didn't look in many of the areas where you noticed water but I did find the bimini top to leak in some area. In particular, we had leaking around the one bimini top support that is about midway between the arch and the transom. There was a significant amount of water beading underneath and it was dripping down onto the carpet.

I've reported it as a punchlist item and we'll see what we co. I expect spraying it will help but I'm surprised it was beading up like it was.

As for water elsewhere, I haven't noticed but I'm going to look for it.

Don't want to threadjack but we're having another issue that I'm looking for insight into. After spending a couple nights on the boat now we're getting a "HI/PS" error code on our heating and cooling control. It has happened 3 or 4 times. The manual refers to it being due to high head pressure and a result of pump failure or lack of water flow. It seems to correct itself but we seem to be getting both with the unit in "auto" mode.

In general, I'm not real satisfied so far with the thermostat getting the cabin to a comfortable temperature. It blows very cool air and very warm air but I'm having trouble getting it smooth.

Good luck on your other issues Steven ... I'll provide insight where I can.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:26 pm 
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I will not likely get the Sirius Weather option, we do not do any open water boating.


Are you going to be just on the Potomac? If you're going to be out on the Chesapeake I can definitely say it's worth having the sat weather hookup. Sudden summer thunderstorms, fronts, squall lines and the rest just can't be predicted from the water. And your arch radar just isn't high enough to see over the terrain. Sat weather gives you the sort of information you need to decide do we a) stay put and wait it out or b) pull up and leave,. even though it "looks fine here now." The latter is key, the sat weather shows you the typical radar blobs of weather, but also shows you wind tracking directions and speeds (this you do not get on cell phone or TV weather).

Deciding to leave or stay based on seeing how the weather is GOING to be, along where you need to GO, is a cinch with the sat weather.

I thought I didn't need it either. One storm taught me otherwise.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:36 pm 
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The dunnage door does not seal tightly is this unique to our 358?

The door just doesn't seal. I removed the shelf entirely and installed loops to hang the coiled lines. This keeps them from sitting in water and getting funky.

The carpet extends far enough through the transom opening to get wet when it rains. And we've had PLENTY of rain around here lately. This leads to the water 'wicking' a bit farther into the cockpit. If I know it's really going to be raining hard I just roll that flap back up into the cockpit. Good news is even if it gets entirely soaked it dries out reasonably quickly. Ours has gotten wet several times over the last 3 seasons and it's still fine. Granted, I do take them home and run the steamvac over them once a month.

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Let me know what you find new 358 owners.


Oh, well, since you don't want help from anyone with the same boat, just different marketing designations, I'll skip replying in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
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Let me know what you find new 358 owners.

Oh, well, since you don't want help from anyone with the same boat, just different marketing designations, I'll skip replying in the future.


Bill,
No, no I did not by any means mean it that way at all. I was referring to new 358 owners and what delivery issues they may be having.

Your experience with the same model (different name) has so far been invaluable and I hope you accept my apology if you took it any differently than I meant it.

PS your idea regarding the dunnage area is a great one. I think I will look into removing the shelf and adding straps for my ropes as well. Then my fenders will fit better in the space as well.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:55 pm 
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Don't worry BL.. Bill can be quite the drama queen at times... But he does post some good information too! :)


I am sort of envious of all the new BIG Vista owners.. Envious of the LOA... Not envious of all the other associated costs! But man they sure do look FINE :)

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:28 pm 
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Better Luck wrote:
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Let me know what you find new 358 owners.

Oh, well, since you don't want help from anyone with the same boat, just different marketing designations, I'll skip replying in the future.


Bill,
No, no I did not by any means mean it that way at all. I was referring to new 358 owners and what delivery issues they may be having.

Your experience with the same model (different name) has so far been invaluable and I hope you accept my apology if you took it any differently than I meant it.

PS your idea regarding the dunnage area is a great one. I think I will look into removing the shelf and adding straps for my ropes as well. Then my fenders will fit better in the space as well.


No worries, sometimes attitude doesn't come across well in plain text. From any of us, in small boats or otherwise. Heh.

I keep meaning to take a picture of my transom locker changes. Right now it's rather filthy since I haven't cleaned it from the winter.

The transom locker shelf comes out in one piece. I seem to recall it being about 8 screws holding it. I have a right-angle cordless drill that made getting to the ones in the port side of the upright easier. But it came right out. Also note the screws for the fender holder cradle are a bit short. I had to put new ones in that were a little longer. If you leave anything without a screw in it be sure to seal it up. I used epoxy. West Marine has a kit along with a syringe that doesn't let epoxy stick to it. So you can use it a couple of times. You still have to mix it up from two parts of course. I used screws about 1/2" longer and put 5200 under the cradles. They're IN THERE permanently now.

Anyway, I got a couple sets of TaylorMade Tidy-ups Line Hangers:
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I got the 1101 large rail size. If you look closely you'll see there's a gap in the middle between where the two straps meet. I cut mine in half at that point. This leaves "just enough" material there to shove a stainless screw through it. I screwed the strap up inside the transom locker. On the back vertical face of the locker (looking at it from the platform). You'll want to attach the loops as high as possible so as to keep the line off the bottom of the locker. My first attempt left the loop a bit too low and the line laid partially on the bottom. I moved that one up farther (and sealed the mistake hole). Once I had the loops attached I coiled the lines a couple of times to find the ideal length. Now they hang straight without touching at the bottom.

Here's a video of how to coil the line: http://www.videos.sailingcourse.com/coiling_wmv1.htm

I've heard of folks using a set of metal hooks in there too. I find the straps to be more secure and easier on both the lines and wet hands.

I then just toss the fenders laterally on the existing cradles. Some of the lines end up flopping over a fender but that's fine. This arrangement also makes it much easier for my wife to find the appropriate lines. No more digging through a heap of wet coiled bunches.

As for the water getting in there, yeah, it's a PITA. I'm leaning toward putting some sort of weatherstripping flap in there to divert the flow. Probably by first gluing down a strip of 1" vinyl molding (from the home depot) and then screwing the weatherstripping to that. The molding will give me a safe surface on which to fasten it instead of digging into either the door or the inside upper lip of the transom locker. It's on that ever-growing "to do" list....

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:29 pm 
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Better Luck wrote:
...we had wet carpets a wet glove box (inside) the dunnage box on the transom was soaked inside. Our ropes and fenders were all wet. I can fix the wet carpets by spraying the bimini with water repellant, and kinda expect that to leak but the other wet areas....anyone else observe this?

I haven't had any wet carpet problems despite some heavy rain. Did this happen with the transom door canvas attached? I had seen earlier posts about the non-sealing dunnage door so I was expecting it - a definite design flaw, particularly with the door opening from the top (which I like). I'll be working on a fix for that for sure. I also have found that the shore power/water service door does not drain well at all - water collects on the opposite side of the compartment from where the drain is.
What is the space you refer to as the "glove box?" If you mean the armrest compartment at the helm, that has not been a problem for me.

The other area of wetness is the carpet of the compartment next to the fridge - I'm guessing from condensation, and that carpet will be coming out.

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Cockpit LED lights seem to be always on. When you actually turn the switch on they get brighter. Is this normal? The only way to turn them completely off is with the ship's systems switch.

I assume you are referring to the blue courtesy lights - mine are fully off unless switched on.

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...we're getting a "HI/PS" error code on our heating and cooling control. It has happened 3 or 4 times. The manual refers to it being due to high head pressure and a result of pump failure or lack of water flow. It seems to correct itself but we seem to be getting both with the unit in "auto" mode.
In general, I'm not real satisfied so far with the thermostat getting the cabin to a comfortable temperature. It blows very cool air and very warm air but I'm having trouble getting it smooth.


For the times that I've used it, I have found the heat to be working well. I don't know about the error codes, but did you check that the seacock for the system is fully open and that the strainer is clear?

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:30 pm 
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I also have found that the shore power/water service door does not drain well at all - water collects on the opposite side of the compartment from where the drain is. If you mean the armrest compartment at the helm, that has not been a problem for me. The other area of wetness is the carpet of the compartment next to the fridge - I'm guessing from condensation, and that carpet will be coming out.


The armrest box does get wet inside, not all the time, but now and then. Seems to coincide with a hard rain driving water through the starboard side canvas. It never gets wet when the cockpit cover is on. I've learned to put anything that stays in there inside a ziploc bag. The quart and gallon size bags are definitely your friend for storage on boats.

The only time the cockpit locker carpet gets wet is if rain/spray has gotten onto the counter above it. It runs down from around the trashcan. I'd prefer some sort of 'lip' that extended from the counter down into the can. Right now the can fits flush to the underside of the countertop. But this doesn't bug me 'enough' to do anything about it. Even after three seasons the carpet has not gotten funky... AT ALL. Go figure, must be something seriously offensive to mold in it. In the earlier models of the 348/358 they didn't have vents at the top of the cabinet over the icemaker (just under the front of the sink). This means it gets a bit warm in the cabinet. But not enough to cause condensation. We store the flares and a small first aid kit in that locker... once again ziplocs to the rescue.

That said, it would appear my cockpit icemaker has a water leak. No idea why, I just shut off it's water line to stop the leak. One more To Do item...

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
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OK I am somewhat encouraged to know it is not just our boat. That makes me feel better, somewhat. The other stuff (electrical) is more troubling.

Steven

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
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After business trips, graduation parties and ice out, I'm finally going to pick mine up today. I'm hoping I don't have to add to the problems listed here lately.

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Ok so I had a great day today. The rain stopped early and the sun came out. The boats ran great. We ran down the lake using the salmon fishermen as a slalom. Only a few things found so far:

Salon table is missing. Well at least we can't find it. Is there a dedicated storage area? We are supposed to get the three piece folding table right, it's not an option?

Sirius radio not connected. the cables are coiled up in the comparment next to the cockpit fridge

A canvas zipper is coming unstitched.

It looks like they forgot to install my aftermarket depth finder transducer.

They only filled one tank. Gas kid didn't realize it had two tanks. Boy does it list.

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 Post subject: Rain water
PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:14 pm 
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I have discovered that after heavy rain I get an accumulation of water in the bilge but only on the starboard side in the area under the sea strainer. I tasted the water and it is fresh water non-salty and the strainer housing is all dry. Anyone else have this ocurring? I can't figure out how the water would get in that area. The port side is completely dry.

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[quote="jrcinnh"]Ok so I had a great day today. The rain stopped early and the sun came out. The boats ran great. We ran down the lake using the salmon fishermen as a slalom. Only a few things found so far:

Salon table is missing. Well at least we can't find it. Is there a dedicated storage area? We are supposed to get the three piece folding table right, it's not an option?

jrcinnh is the salon table under the forward berth cushions? just a thought as that where it is on the 288.
Good luck with the new boat, love to see some pics.

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