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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:40 am 
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Does any one know if the 6 CD changer can read MP3? The Sony head units do, but it doesn't seem like the changer does.


Yes, I know and the answer. It is a disappointing NO!
Thanks for your other answers.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:23 pm 
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I want to replace my house battery which I believe is going bad. What is the group number of the one I already have as standard equipment on my 2008 V358 and can I put a larger group battery in there without affecting the charger from doing its job? At this time I am not interested in adding an additional battery just a swap out will do for now. I believe my start batteries are Gel types, what type do you recommend for the house battery. I think mine is a regular lead acid one now. Can i mix and match and not confuse the charger?

Hey Steven -

The trays supplied on my boat were Group 31's even though the batteries originally provided were 27's (all lead acid). When FW replaced them this season they provided 31's although they were AGM's so the footprint is smaller and I had to use some blocks to keep the batteries from shifting rather than replacing the trays. Our charger has separate settings for lead, AGM and Gel and while lead and AGM have very similar charging parameters (a lot of chargers don't even have an AGM setting) I would be reluctant to mix and match. Everything I have read says Gel and Lead should not be mixed on the same charger. All that said, I am very pleased with the Optima AGM batteries. Can't speak for the lasting power of one alone as I added a second, but I coast through the night on the hook with both fridges running and don't run the batteries down.

But to really answer your question, I would determine the biggest battery that will fit the tray (probably a 31) and get the same type as your starting batteries except make sure the house battery is a 'deep cycle' or 'dual purpose' in the case of AGM. I can't speak for Gel.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:27 pm 
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jrcinnh wrote:
Does any one else have a problem turning the cockpit stereo on after it has been off? Sometimes at night the displays bug me so I turn them off by pressing the off button till they are dark. Then the cockpit unit will not come back on, the cabin unit does. I have to turn off and on the main cabin breaker to get the cockpit stereo to come on again.

Finally, where are the Sirius receivers, anyone know?


I have not had that problem with the cockpit stereo. Do you have the same difficulty trying to power it up from the helm or transom remote?

The Sirius receivers are in the compartment with the central vac and A/C

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:39 pm 
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Steve, I don't know what batteries FFS supplied you, but you may want to check your original spec sheet. I'm hitting up my dealer for the optima's as well. Evidently, my dealer has signed documentation that they won't supply the optima batteries as a customers 348 burned to the water line due to the optimas. Either way I have the group 27 lead acid batteries and while their good, they have substandard specs to the Optima 31s. I'll be adding a battery as Sierra did for sure.

Question for you guys on your topside subwoofer. Is your located in the lounger compartment forward with with sub firing towards the stern? Mine is mounted that way on a piece of starboard. The starboard is not secured too well and it is vibrating on one of the grab rail screws. I might make a custom box but for now I need to secure it to at least stop the rattling. How is it setup on the 358?


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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:12 pm 
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mkivbren wrote:
my dealer has signed documentation that they won't supply the optima batteries as a customers 348 burned to the water line due to the optimas.
Well, that's disconcerting.
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Is your located in the lounger compartment forward with with sub firing towards the stern? Mine is mounted that way on a piece of starboard. The starboard is not secured too well and it is vibrating on one of the grab rail screws. I might make a custom box but for now I need to secure it to at least stop the rattling. How is it setup on the 358?

This is the sub location in the V358 (mounted directly to the fiberglass and it fires to port)
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I have not experienced any vibration issues.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:23 pm 
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Sierra, the Sony head units have different levels of "Off". When they are powered they wake up in a off mode with advertising, if you press source then the radio works, if you press off then they go into the mode with just the time displayed. Everthing works fine and the same on either head unit in any of these modes.

But if you press the off button one more time, the head unit really goes off, the display goes dark. Once in this mode the cabin head unit will come back on, but the cockpit unit will not, even from the helm/transom remotes. I have to cycle the main circuit breaker to get it back on. I even swapped the head units and the problem says with the cockpit, so it's not a bad head unit.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:38 pm 
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Huh. That is a head-scratcher - sorry I can't help you. I also do the "full-off" mode at night for the same reason but have never had trouble powering back up. Hopefully someone else has a thought on this - good luck.

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Thanks for the battery help guys. I turn off the stereo holding the power button in the upper left side of the unit and can turn it on from the helm remote without any problem. I just ordered new speakers to replace my radar arch speakers with ones that can rotate so we can here music better while in the water. I also ordered deck plates to fill the wholes that will be there when I yank out the old Sonys. I need one of them to replace one on the sides of the arch since it appears to be blown. I will post pics.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:42 pm 
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I bit the bullet and should have a new Optima battery SC31 DM to install in my boat tomorrow. Optima BTW is from Interstate but they are not marketed as such. I didn't know that until doing a bit of research.

I am expecting delivery any moment of my new speakers I plan on installing in the radar arch. I bought Polk Audio Atrium 55's. I think Polk makes a decent sounding speaker. I want ones that I can direct towards the swim platform b/c when we are in the water, you really can't hear the stereo unless it is totally cranked up. I also have a blown speaker on the starboard side on the lower part of the arch so I can use one of the ones I am removing as a replacement. I hope the deck plates I ordered to cover up the speaker holes work out. I will let you know!

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:49 pm 
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Better Luck wrote:
I bit the bullet and should have a new Optima battery SC31 DM to install in my boat tomorrow
Excellent! You mentioned before that you thought your starting batteries are gels - have you confirmed this? Again, AGM's mix with lead acid but nothing should be mixed and matched with gels.

We'll definitely be looking for pictures of the new speaker setup - that should be terrific. Next mod should be to hook up an infrared repeater on the transom, put the stereo remote in a waterproof bag and you'll never have to leave the water even to get to the transom remote to adjust the system!

The weekend forecast (no jinx) is looking superb 8)

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:36 pm 
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Batteries are Optimas for starting and new one will be the same. Group 31 Optima. Should be fine.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:59 pm 
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Better Luck wrote:
Batteries are Optimas for starting and new one will be the same. Group 31 Optima. Should be fine.
Got it. If they are all blue top (AGM's) you should be sure the charger is set to AGM (assuming it's the Charles 5000 SP or a unit with an AGM setting). Unfortunately this requires unscrewing and removing it from where it's mounted as the switch is (stupidly) on the back of the unit. It comes off and goes back up easily enough - it's just a bit tough to get at. Don't be misled by the access panel on the front of the unit where they should have put the switch. The switch is on the back.

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:24 pm 
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Greetings all;

This is my first post. I just bought my 06' 348, inboard, Merc 6.2 V drives; and still feeling my way around it. This seems the palace to come for advice.


A couple of questions:

We boat in the Massachusetts bay area, between Quincy and Salem (North East.) if it is not for the camper , our boating season would be cut in half. I have been out on the the boat 5 times this season, and on three outings the CO alarms were triggered. I thought it was the low battery, or just old Fireboy sensors. Went out and bought a Kiddy battery operated detector with a readout. CO levels were extremely high - upto 385 ppm in the aft cabin area.

Even when the blower is always on, cockpit door is closed, and all vents are closed, alarms were still triggered. It just takes longer time for the alarms to go off.

I believe it is the station wagon effect; any ideas to resolve this, has anyone in the north east experienced this?
I know CO is not something you want your kids around.

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:53 pm 
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Hey sfive00 & welcome!! Congrats on the purchase - you'll love her. What boat are you coming out of? And, of course, we'd love to see some pictures when you have the chance!
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I have been out on the the boat 5 times this season, and on three outings the CO alarms were triggered. I thought it was the low battery, or just old Fireboy sensors. Went out and bought a Kiddy battery operated detector with a readout. CO levels were extremely high - upto 385 ppm in the aft cabin area.
Is this happening with the engines running and the camper top fully up? If so, I'm not at all surprised that you're getting the station wagon effect. You should really avoid running with the aft curtain in place, but if you do, roll up at least the aft center and, if possible, the aft port eisenglass and keep the forward vents open to allow ventilation through the cockpit. If I run with the full top up I always do this and, if reasonable given the weather, keep the center windshield open as well. CO2 will find its way in to the cockpit and cabin and accumulate if there is no ventiallation. There is no way around that unless environmental conditions keep it from happening and you don't want to bank on that. The blower doesn't alleviate CO2. And even though the cabin door is closed, it is not air tight.

As you said, CO2 is not to be toyed with. I keep a portable meter on board and have found it very useful.

Again, welcome... and keep the questions coming!

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 Post subject: Re: V348/V358 Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:20 pm 
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Sierra, thanks for the reply - Will keep you posted on the CO situation. I am sure I'll love my FW. My previous boat was a Maxum SCR 2700. Got small for the family.

Questions there are many; here is a couple:

- Did you manage to find a good place for storing the cockpit table?

- The Raymarine C-80 software has a "Vessel monitoring page" shows the analogue gauges data (RPMs, Fuel, Volts, etc.) plus some more on fuel. GPH, MPG, etc. The data however is not showing - not sure whether there is wiring that I need to install to make them work. The boat came with full electronics package including SeaTalk, Sirus, and autopilot - I can;t imagin that I need to do wiring :)

- Any drawings for the hull structure, I would like to add a pair of fishing rod holders on the aft sides of the boat, don't want to drill in the wrong places.

Cheers
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