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As I read the electrical schematics, the batteries are charged from the battery charger, even if the battery switch is off. This goes for all three batteries.

When I leave the boat, I turn off all the dc breakers in the cabin. This just habit, the cabin main, and the helm main would be enough. I also turn off all the AC breakers except the battery charger and the two fridges. I like my drinks to be cold when I arrive.

I leave all the battery switches on. There really isn't anything that draws DC after you shut off the cabin main and helm main. If the shore power goes out, the bilge pumps will run down the batteries either way. The big port/starboard battery switches just control power to the engines.

Bill, why do you need to turn off the cabin fridge? If you turn off the AC breaker and the cabin main, it should not get any power. I'll check the schematics again to be sure.

Bill, I reposted the pic of the aft corner because sfive00 asked about boat structure so he could plan places to mount rod holders. I figure there was at least one safe spot.

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2008 V358 Two-tone Blue V/P Dual Prop 320 HP
Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

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So the 348/358 didn't get a dedicated DC panel breaker (in addition to the AC dedicated panel breaker) for the salon fridge?? The 338 has one.
I leave everything on as I'm living on the boat but I shut down the engine switches sometimes. I always kill the city water when I leave every morning though.

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Chris Craft Catalina 23 w/ 300 G2
Previously-V338, 248 Vista, H210

I am pretty sure I have a breaker for the fridge on my a/c panel.

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2008 Four Winns V358 (T 6.2L Merc Bravo III's with DTS and SeaCore)
2006 Sea Ray 340DA
2006 Sea Ray 320DA
2005 Maxum 3100 SE

OK I had to download the schematics at work just to make sure I remembered correctly.

The fridge inside the boat (call it salon, cabin, galley) is dual powered AC and DC. There is an AC circuit breaker for it on the AC panel in the cabin. That much is obvious and clear.

The DC circuit breaker on that same panel is a push button breaker vs a toggle switch breaker. wkearney lamented that he had to turn off the fridge inside the fridge because you cannot use the push button breaker as a switch to turn off the fridge. But if you turn off the cabin main circuit breaker, then the fridge breaker has no power and the fridge is off.

All the DC breakers on that panel are in series with the cabin main except the forward bilge, shower sump and the helm main. All the other DC circuit breakers in the cabin are dead once you turn off cabin main.

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2008 V358 Two-tone Blue V/P Dual Prop 320 HP
Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

The only breakers I leave on are the two refrigerators. I always flip off the main and helm breakers in the panel. I just recently started turning off the ships systems breaker in the panel next to the stern door. I do this because my son doesn't know that it's there and none of the power in the cabin works if this is off. Yes he has been sneaking into the boat with his girlfriend through the front hatch. I am working on a wood bar that will span between the levers that lock the forward hatch kinda like a "club" stering wheel lock only made for the hatch. I have not had any battery issues at all since I bought the boat new last season. I play the radios and leave both fridges on all day while on the hook and have not had any issues.

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2008.Fourwinns V358
1999 SeaRay340 Sundancer
1989 SeaRay 260 Cuddy

Hi All

Please take the time to read my thread on Hull manufacture quality on the Vista, I know this boat is at 2006 model, but I am very sure the hull rot on my 2004 model started from the day it was floated. Worth a read and getting a moisture test done ASAP.

Good luck with the boat.

Cheers
Brett.

I was not aware this was the case. It'd been my impression that the fridge did not run through the 'cabin main' breaker. In reviewing the schematics it looks like that it does. Well, you learn something new everyday. But then the schematics in my manual don't quite jibe with what's actually in the boat. I'll check the next time I'm on it.

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

well i checked the batteries out. batteries were not hot. voltages seemed ok:

engines not running - system 12.5, both engine batts 13.

engines running - all batts showed 12v.

will update again after today's cruise.

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2006 348 Vista
"some days you're the bug and some days you're the windshield"

I take it that means 13v when on shore power and the charger active? If that's the case then the system being different seems odd. You'd think the shore power charger would be powering them equally.

Only 12v even when the engines are running is also not quite right. It should be a bit above 12.5v as the alternators would be charging them.

Were all the values the same I'd start to wonder about the isolator device that handles splitting the charging voltages. But as they're different, hmmm, not sure what's going on.

Note that I have complained in the past about the problem of having only one ship systems battery. It's just not enough to power the various stuff the typical situation is going to require. I added a second set to augment the ship system and have been very pleased with it.

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

Revisiting the discussion of access to the fresh water tank, is this not the setup beneath the forward berth in the 348...?

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2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

Nope. That's an entirely different layout that what's under the berth in a 2005 348. That's a nice setup. Which table is supposed to fit on the port side? That's not large enough for the cockpit table, is it? Or is it for the optional mid-cabin berth table?

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista

It is in fact for the mid-cabin table (standard on the V358). The cockpit sunpad filler cushion fits nicely in there when the mid-cabin table is deployed (although I've brought my cushion home as I've never used it).

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Previously:
2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

agh....I bought my boat a few minutes too early. I have the old style under the bed setup that Bill describes. There basically room for one table. We also store the table leg and a few other things. It's one fiberglass piece

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2008 V358 Two-tone Blue V/P Dual Prop 320 HP
Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

That surprises me. Remind me what your build date was..?? Mine was the third week of January '08. You did get the Magic Fingers Massage Mattress that was new in '08 I hope

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Previously:
2008 V358/Volvo 5.7 GXi Inboards

I'd much prefer to be able to store the cockpit table somewhere. I'd then have to find some place to store the salon table. There's likely more space somewhere else to stow that, vs the cockpit table. Under or behind the couch would be my first idea. There's a fair amount of empty space behind the upright back of the couch (this is where the AC hose to the forward berth runs).

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-Bill Kearney, 2005 348 Vista