Break out the wallet, and get all chain..
I swapped out my old wore out road/chain for 200' of chain... Fed Ex gal loved me that day.. lol Makes, for me, a lot easier setting up, and doesn't require as much scope when anchoring..
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| Author: | hutch9900 [ Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Windlass Help |
I have the Maxwell Freedom windlass on my 278. Lately, the rope has been slipping as I am retrieving the anchor. I have tried to tighten the center top without it really fixing the problem. Has anyone else had this problem or know how to make it tighter on the rope? |
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| Author: | firecadet613 [ Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Tightening the top should do it, unless its the wrong rope or its worn. The windlass should only be used to pull in the anchor, not pull the boat to the anchor. |
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| Author: | hutch9900 [ Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Thanks, Fire. I do make sure to drive toward the anchoring point. Just seems like unless there is a little tension on the line, it slips easier. It could be the rope is worn too. It always slips on the rope where it is wet, never on the dry portion. Any ideas of the best places to buy rope and chain combo? I don't know sizing or anything and I know you have had a similar size boat to mine. |
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| Author: | firecadet613 [ Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
I bought line and chain from a place in Florida...either on eBay or a google search. I like at least 30' of chain and 200' of rope, which is not what my 268 came with. I never had a problem, but I had new ground tackle. |
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| Author: | TFD2001 [ Thu May 01, 2014 6:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Break out the wallet, and get all chain.. I swapped out my old wore out road/chain for 200' of chain... Fed Ex gal loved me that day.. lol Makes, for me, a lot easier setting up, and doesn't require as much scope when anchoring..
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| Author: | Paul I. [ Thu May 01, 2014 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
A 278 vs a 328 is a lot more weight and profile. A 278 with 30' chain and 200' of line should work. 200' of chain is a lot of weight, I am shocked it even came by FedEx. That is 200' of 5/8 chain is about 225lb if not more. 50' of chain on a 328 would be more in line. |
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| Author: | hutch9900 [ Thu May 01, 2014 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Paul I. wrote: A 278 vs a 328 is a lot more weight and profile. A 278 with 30' chain and 200' of line should work. 200' of chain is a lot of weight, I am shocked it even came by FedEx. That is 200' of 5/8 chain is about 225lb if not more. 50' of chain on a 328 would be more in line. Is 5/8" chain and 3/8" rope good for my 278? Just wondering because I want to make sure that I get some with a factory splice so it is smooth running into the windlass without a big catch where the two join. |
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| Author: | firecadet613 [ Thu May 01, 2014 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Your windlass manual will state what will work. Don't be afraid to splice it yourself, I did mine with the help of YouTube videos. Fed through just fine. |
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| Author: | TFD2001 [ Thu May 01, 2014 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Paul I. wrote: A 278 vs a 328 is a lot more weight and profile. A 278 with 30' chain and 200' of line should work. 200' of chain is a lot of weight, I am shocked it even came by FedEx. That is 200' of 5/8 chain is about 225lb if not more. 50' of chain on a 328 would be more in line. Agreed, I certainly over did it, but, minus having to pay for it, I like what I have, and the weight, in my boat, didn't really change her floating profile noticeably.. I was mainly just saying it in jest..  The setup mine had before was abysmal.. They had maybe 150' of old, hard, stiff rode, and 5' to 10' at best of chain.. |
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| Author: | 298VISTA2000 [ Thu May 01, 2014 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Open up the windlass housing and there will be a couple of springs on the backside that create the tension on the teeth. You might need to replace them or jerry-rig them like I did. |
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| Author: | Paul I. [ Thu May 01, 2014 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
TFD2001 wrote: Paul I. wrote: A 278 vs a 328 is a lot more weight and profile. A 278 with 30' chain and 200' of line should work. 200' of chain is a lot of weight, I am shocked it even came by FedEx. That is 200' of 5/8 chain is about 225lb if not more. 50' of chain on a 328 would be more in line. Agreed, I certainly over did it, but, minus having to pay for it, I like what I have, and the weight, in my boat, didn't really change her floating profile noticeably.. I was mainly just saying it in jest.. The setup mine had before was abysmal.. They had maybe 150' of old, hard, stiff rode, and 5' to 10' at best of chain.. Yep! If your not sure, get your wife. Its just like braiding hair. You want to have 6 to 8" of braid. Than cut one strand do one or two more than cut the next. In other words, so it thins out gradually. |
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| Author: | 298VISTA2000 [ Thu May 01, 2014 5:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
hutch9900 wrote: It could be the rope is worn too. No need to buy new rope (unless you are a big water boater) because you can use the existing rope by switching ends. You probably only use 1/2 the existing rode anyway when anchoring out so the section that always stays in the anchor well should be in good shape. Here is a good website that shows you how to splice the rope to the chain: http://www.animatedknots.com/chainsplice/ |
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| Author: | hutch9900 [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
298VISTA2000 wrote: hutch9900 wrote: It could be the rope is worn too. No need to buy new rope (unless you are a big water boater) because you can use the existing rope by switching ends. You probably only use 1/2 the existing rode anyway when anchoring out so the section that always stays in the anchor well should be in good shape. Here is a good website that shows you how to splice the rope to the chain: http://www.animatedknots.com/chainsplice/ Yes, I could do that. The only problem is that i have a similar situation to what TFD was talking about. I probably have 10ft of chain and 50ft of rope. The rope looks like it is worn and even though there is clean and fresh line in the locker, it is not worth my time since it's so short anyway. |
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| Author: | Bliss36 [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
Hutch, You might want to try replacing the pressure arm inside the windlass since they do wear out and might not grip a new rode also. I keep a spare one on board since they do just randomly break sometimes. Just remove the big nut on top,pull out the gypsy wheel and it installs very easily http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|2276108|2276145|2276149|2276152&id=797062  I used this place when replacing my anchor rode and they were great to deal with! Their 8 plait nylon rode works great in the Maxwell Freedom and I've had no jams with their chain either. Try their "build a rode" option. http://www.secosouth.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=SECO&Category_Code=anchor_rodes Good luck, Ben |
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| Author: | 298VISTA2000 [ Fri May 02, 2014 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windlass Help |
hutch9900 wrote: 298VISTA2000 wrote: hutch9900 wrote: Yes, I could do that. The only problem is that i have a similar situation to what TFD was talking about. I probably have 10ft of chain and 50ft of rope. I missed the part about only having 50' of rope. That is a definite replacement then. |
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