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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:31 am 
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Hello, New to the group here. Just bought my first Four Winns as my subject points out. Ive had it for about 3 months now. Have had to do a lot of work to it due to squirrels getting in and chewing up all the wiring under the dash. What a pain in the butt but it was worth it for only paying $3500 for it. Engine runs great and looking to put it in the water this weekend for its first trial run. Little nervous but excited at the same time. Have been working on buffing out the oxidation and its starting to look good on one side. Will post more pics as it starts to clean up.
Anyways, just wanted to introduce myself and post a pic of my boat.

Chuck

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:38 am 
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Welcome orto55.
If you have been watching this forum for a while, you will see there are many items to check and/or replace when purchasing a boat of this age.
Good luck with it and post some more picks.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:47 am 
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Contrats on your purchase, and welcome to the forum.

Just an observation from your picture:
Your trailer does not look original (which is mostly good because the Four Winns Trailers rust out from the inside out). It looks like yours is made from Channel, which is good. However, the winch post / bow-stop setup looks pretty wimpy compared to the size of the boat. Also, the bow stop is normally ABOVE the bow eye, not below. This is what does most of the stopping of the boat when you hit the brakes. I would be afraid, with your setup, that if you have to hit the brakes really hard, the boat would "ride-up" over the bow stop as well as bend the bow stop down.

I would use a safety chain from the bow-eye down to the trailer frame, or in your case, it might be better to use two chains...one from each side frame of the trailer.

The transom can also be tied down with transom tie-downs, but they are more for holding the boat and trailer together. Since they are usually vertical, they don't help much with preventing the boat from sliding forward during braking.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:51 am 
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congrats on your new boat. kind of looks familiar. good to see another 245 out there. how many hours are on the boat? it a lot of work buffing it out but it will be worth it when you are done

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:06 am 
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I agree with the expressed concerns with the trailer set up. There is only a winch strap, no safety chain or turnbuckle tie down chain. I use a roller trailer and I have both a safety chain and turn buckle tie down chain. Of course rear straps also. That winch post is not at all properly braced. There needs to be a brace attached to the forward top end of the post, down to the trailer tongue. If you had o stop suddenly the weight of that big boat could easily snap that post.

Is this a Cobra drive system (many FWs of this era were because OMC owned FW then). If so we have a lot of knowledge on how to get them shifting well. Make sure all the safety stuff is in good shape (fuel tank fittings, hoses, bilge pump, auto switch, etc) before you put it in the water. Has the drive been serviced ( drive oil changed, oil checked for water, bellows checked for leaks, gimble bearing, u-joints and driveshaft splines greased, shifter bell crank in the pivot housing cleaned out and greased)?? All this should be done each year. The Cobra should shift very easily, if it's stiff into or out of gear get it looked at promptly. How about the impeller (raw water pump) in the upper drive housing? This is another very important maintenance item.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:51 pm 
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Thanks for your reply. I agree that it looks pretty wimpy. I plan to replace it soon but I was wondering where would be a good place to find something like that.

Chuck

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:55 pm 
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crossram wrote:
congrats on your new boat. kind of looks familiar. good to see another 245 out there. how many hours are on the boat? it a lot of work buffing it out but it will be worth it when you are done


Nice looking boat crossram. I cant wait till mine looks that good. Took a couple of weekend to actually learn what it took to get the oxidation off and how to properly use the buffer to do it. Now its just going at it a little bit at a time. Its already starting to look good. At least in section. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:58 pm 
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LouC wrote:
I agree with the expressed concerns with the trailer set up. There is only a winch strap, no safety chain or turnbuckle tie down chain. I use a roller trailer and I have both a safety chain and turn buckle tie down chain. Of course rear straps also. That winch post is not at all properly braced. There needs to be a brace attached to the forward top end of the post, down to the trailer tongue. If you had o stop suddenly the weight of that big boat could easily snap that post.

Is this a Cobra drive system (many FWs of this era were because OMC owned FW then). If so we have a lot of knowledge on how to get them shifting well. Make sure all the safety stuff is in good shape (fuel tank fittings, hoses, bilge pump, auto switch, etc) before you put it in the water. Has the drive been serviced ( drive oil changed, oil checked for water, bellows checked for leaks, gimble bearing, u-joints and driveshaft splines greased, shifter bell crank in the pivot housing cleaned out and greased)?? All this should be done each year. The Cobra should shift very easily, if it's stiff into or out of gear get it looked at promptly. How about the impeller (raw water pump) in the upper drive housing? This is another very important maintenance item.


Hey LouC

Thanks for your reply. Im going to need some help with the cobra drive system. I took it out today and low and behold, it no longer shifted in to neutral or reverse. Of course this didn't happen when I checked out the drive on land. Everything worked as advertised but out on the water it didn't. Can you point me into the direction to look for the problem?
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