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Shifter issues V288
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Author:  PierPressure [ Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Shifter issues V288
I apologize in advance. As a new used Vista owner (and to be honest....new to this size boat....heck...this is my second boat), I'm sure I'll have a metric ton of questions now and in the near future as I begin to learn exactly what I've gotten myself into :) With that business out of the way...here is my next question.

The throttles on my boat seem horribly difficult to get in and out of gear. Once in gear, they are very smooth. But close quarter maneuvers are very difficult since I'm fighting the throttles instead of concentrating on my position. It's not all the time either....and sometimes it's the port and not the starboard and vice versa.

I saw another thread regarding a similar issue on this forum...but that was for a single engine 268 and I'm not sure where to start looking to be honest. So what I'm looking for are suggestions for a quick fix if possible.....or if replacement of something is required....what needs to be replaced....Also, how difficult is whatever labor your suggesting (IE..can I do it myself...or should I have a pro perform the work).

Thanks in advance!!
Author:  GI Auz [ Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
Mine are pretty tight but you get used to how much force to use to crack through the centre point but still not over rev.
However your shift cables may need replacing.
I've had my mechanic do it - it looked pretty fussy!
Author:  alex8q4 [ Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
I recently ended my rather long battle with similar issues.

When you are sitting at the dock how do thing feel?
If they are a bit stiff you can spray lithium grease into the international parts of the shifter itself. This was the last thing I did to mine and it really put the icing on the cake in terms of smooth operation.

If this does not do the trick and things are still stiff you should try the operation of each shifter with one cable disconnected. Perhaps you will identify one cable that is causing a stiff feeling. If you decide to change a cable go with a Teleflex Extreme. This is an upgraded cable and well worth the minor up charge from the standard cable. Changing the cables from a mechanical standpoint is simple... Routing the cable on the other hand can be a bit of a treat.

Finally, are you randomly having a hard time shifting into neutral when docking, or when operating at idle speeds. Change your gear oil! Make sure it is OEM oil, and do not over fill. In this particular case oil is not just oil, and you must use the Volvo or Siera gear oil. Improper oil or poor oil conditions pervent the drive from shifting into neutral when there is a load on the prop.

My boat went from a nightmare to operating like a dream. Good luck!
Author:  GI Auz [ Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
is it easy to open up the shifter?
Author:  alex8q4 [ Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
On my Volvo shifter the cover just pulls off and there are 4 screws holding the shifter in place. After removing the 4 screws I can pull the shifter up and out far as the slack in the cables lets you. Once out you can see all the components.

I have never had a top mounted Merc shifter but I assume it's similar.
Author:  Surface Interval [ Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
Check the attachment of both ends of each cable and both ends of the each cable housing, both throttle and gear shift. Our 268's shifter was a little stubborn earlier this summer. In July we had the gear shift cable housing become disconnected from the Shifter handle bracket at the helm. Before it became disconnected it was loose, sloppy, and harder to shift to neutral. I understand that the shifter system uses an ignition interrupter switch to momentarily interrupt power and make shifting to neutral easier (or possible). A loose cable or housing could affect rigging and operation.
Author:  LouC [ Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
The cables can wear internally and the transom shift cable can get cracks in the sheath where it passes from the pivot housing to the outdrive and that can cause internal corrosion and stiff shifting.
When I adjust the cable on my OMC Cobra I disconnect the transom cable at both ends and measure the drag on the cable, it can't be more than 2.5 lbs (with a fish scale). I would disconnect the cable at both ends and check this. The Volvo uses one long cable from the remote control all the way to the outdrive. Stiffness is usually a worn cable, but it can be in the control too.


The Volvo cone clutch drives do not use a shift interruptor for shifting out of gear, that is needed on dog clutch shifted drives like the Merc Alpha and OMC Cobra to get the dog clutch to release. On mine it drops the idle down from 600 to about 400 rpm momentarily to release the gear you are in.
Author:  Surface Interval [ Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
Thanks, Lou. I stand corrected.
Author:  noexcuses [ Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
I changed out one of my Port side shift cables recently which was Teleflex, I went with the Volvo OEM after a Volvo person showed me the difference between a Teleflex and Volvo by sliding the cable in/out of the sheath. The difference was very noticeable. After installing the cable which by the way is not very difficult on Volvo's, the difference between the port and starboard is a lot smoother shifting. I'm thinking of switching the starboard side next spring.
Author:  PierPressure [ Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
To change out cables...boat needs to be out of the water....correct?
Author:  LouC [ Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
Definitely for the shift cable.
The part of this job that can be hard is getting the remote control out to disconnect the old cable. On some boats it's very easy on others its a project.
Author:  noexcuses [ Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
The 288 has the same shift remote as the 298, shouldn't be a problem. I would suggest that you tape the old shift cable to a fish tape so that you can pull the new one through.
Author:  alex8q4 [ Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
noexcuses wrote:
I changed out one of my Port side shift cables recently which was Teleflex, I went with the Volvo OEM after a Volvo person showed me the difference between a Teleflex and Volvo by sliding the cable in/out of the sheath. The difference was very noticeable. After installing the cable which by the way is not very difficult on Volvo's, the difference between the port and starboard is a lot smoother shifting. I'm thinking of switching the starboard side next spring.



I am pretty darn sure Volvo uses Morse shifters which are made by the same company as Teleflex. The OEM would have been a Teleflex. Perhaps he showed you the difference between the standard and the extreme. The extreme is said to be notably smoother in its operation.

Cheers
Author:  noexcuses [ Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
alex8q4 wrote:
noexcuses wrote:
I changed out one of my Port side shift cables recently which was Teleflex, I went with the Volvo OEM after a Volvo person showed me the difference between a Teleflex and Volvo by sliding the cable in/out of the sheath. The difference was very noticeable. After installing the cable which by the way is not very difficult on Volvo's, the difference between the port and starboard is a lot smoother shifting. I'm thinking of switching the starboard side next spring.



I am pretty darn sure Volvo uses Morse shifters which are made by the same company as Teleflex. The OEM would have been a Teleflex. Perhaps he showed you the difference between the standard and the extreme. The extreme is said to be notably smoother in its operation.

Cheers


Definitely could be the case that the Volvo OEM is a relabeled Teleflex Extreme but the one I bought is labeled as a Volvo part.
Author:  alex8q4 [ Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Shifter issues V288
noexcuses wrote:
alex8q4 wrote:
noexcuses wrote:
I changed out one of my Port side shift cables recently which was Teleflex, I went with the Volvo OEM after a Volvo person showed me the difference between a Teleflex and Volvo by sliding the cable in/out of the sheath. The difference was very noticeable. After installing the cable which by the way is not very difficult on Volvo's, the difference between the port and starboard is a lot smoother shifting. I'm thinking of switching the starboard side next spring.



I am pretty darn sure Volvo uses Morse shifters which are made by the same company as Teleflex. The OEM would have been a Teleflex. Perhaps he showed you the difference between the standard and the extreme. The extreme is said to be notably smoother in its operation.

Cheers


Definitely could be the case that the Volvo OEM is a relabeled Teleflex Extreme but the one I bought is labeled as a Volvo part.


You are correct. Your cable is listed as this "CABLE,CNTRL 20' TF EXTREME/VP
CC63320"
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