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 Post subject: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:30 pm 
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Minnow

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Hi All!!

Since its my first post, let me do a quick intro.

I've been a long time boater (Georgian Bay), and am currently in the market for an upgrade.

I've been seriously looking at the 338 for a couple of years, but I can find very little on this forum about this boat.
It seems there are a number of 348/358 owners and a bunch of 318 owners.

So, for all you 318 and 358 owners, why did you choose the one up/one down from the 338?
And, for all the 338 owners out there, I'd love to hear your comments on this boat.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:38 pm 
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The 338 is just a big brother to the 318. Exact same layout, just an extra 2 feet in length and about a foot in width.

Gorgeous boat.

I also happen to have a line on a leftover 2008 338... All white with a black or copper stripe...black canvas... bottom paint, volvo 5.7 ocean drives, and very nicely loaded. 152k and they might even ship the boat to you.

PM me for more info if you are intereted.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:46 pm 
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Dolphin

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Location: Essex, CT
Traded up from our 2004 Vista 288 to a V318 in 2006...we had fallen in love with the 348 (now 358) and were thinking of that boat when the 318 was introduced and to us it felt like a more prudent step up at the time and we have not been dissapointed...the 338 was not introduced until the following year. The layouts are all very similar (318, 338, 358), the hulls are all off the original Hunt designs and have proven to be efficient and dry. We had started to look in the 40' foot range, including the new V408, Cruisers 390sc and their 420SC...but similar to what Cougar mentions, I had a call from my dealer about a line on a leftover 2008 V358...it is unbelievably loaded is close to 40% off the original msrp...I put a deposit down this week, pending our walkthrough...well less than half of what any of the larger boats were (even a leftover 2008 SC390)...either way, our 3rd Fourwinns in five years...pretty satisfied with the brand, very satisfied with my local service, very pysched about getting a new boat at a great price.

Joe B.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:57 pm 
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Some great deals to be had on the larger boats - that's for sure.

Wow - what a time to be a buyer!

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:24 am 
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Location: Lexington, Kentucky
JoeBalt.....would be interested to know if you are trading in your 318 on this purchase?

I have a 2008 318 and have been thinking about looking at deals on some bigger models, but am worried I will get next to nothing on my 318 if I trade.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:33 pm 
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Sierra

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Hey Jerry - first of all, welcome aboard!

I can't speak to comparison shopping between the 338 and 358 as I was originally targeting the Sea Ray 340DA when the V358 won me over. It was actually the same situation for a lot of 358 owners here - more details on those reasons can be found on the V358 thread. But I have some thoughts...

I am a firm believer in the adage, 'buy the biggest boat you feel comfortable budgeting for, for your perceived use.' I also believe that when you jump at least ten feet from where you're at (what are you in now?) you really feel the difference and, of course, you really feel it in the increase in beam and weight. But it's certainly not essential to enjoying the boat - it just may make you feel comfortable staying with it longer. I had an idea of what I wanted to spend but built in some flexibility. Over my first season with the 358 this boat made me fall in love with cruising and staying on board that much more. As is the sickness, I already would love to have added storage space and even better accommodations for guests, but I'll be moving into a whole other class/size range for that when the time comes. Until then, I'm thrilled with my decision. You're looking at three boats that are, as has been said, essentially the same in design and layout. If you plan to spend lots of time of board, perhaps with overnight guests, I refer you to the adage at the beginning of this paragraph. They're all great choices but more space is more space. And because Four Winns features as standard so many things that are options on competing brands in this class, you are already ahead of the game with Four Winns and the 'bang for the buck' factor.

One consideration is whether or not you want inboards. If you do, then the 358 is your only choice. The other boats will definitely give you more in terms of speed performance. I also recommend you take a careful look at some basic feature differences (as I'm sure you have been). I love having the extra room in the head and the separate shower. There are other things that I believe are only standard on the 358 like central vacuum, which certainly is no reason to choose one boat over another, but enough things on your 'want list' may add up.

Finally - and I don't know if you are thinking of this - in my opinion, the difference in operating costs should not be a major factor in a decision between these three boats. if you really do the math, the by-the-foot differences, while they may add up, are relatively negligible to the big financial picture of ownership. And if you have inboards, some of those costs are negated by the reduced maintenance over outdrives.

As the cliche goes, choosing a boat will always involve a series of compromises. What a happy problem to have. If you have any specific questions, please fire away. If you haven't noticed, we love talking about our boats!

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:37 pm 
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JoeBalt wrote:
I had a call from my dealer about a line on a leftover 2008 V358...it is unbelievably loaded is close to 40% off the original msrp...I put a deposit down this week, pending our walkthrough.


Joe - awesome news! I hope it works out. Is this through Bryan?

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:04 pm 
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Thanks Sierra,
yes, it will be his third sales to us.

pjohnscpa - yes, we're trading in the 318 and I'm not sure you'll like what you hear...the total package works for us but as an example, the dealer has a new leftover 08 318 that he has listed for almost $20k less than we bought ours new for in 2006...tough not to get beat up on a year old trade in.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:01 pm 
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Sorry for the continued hijack...

Joe - if it's the one he had on his floor back in the big showroom, I spent a few hours on that boat and shot lots of pix, some of which can be seen here( and it's awesome - fully loaded). Although you said "he had a line on a 358" so I'm thinking maybe it's from another dealer? Plus, that 358 hasn't been on his inventory list in a while. But if it is that boat, let me know and I'll send you the high-res shots I have.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:06 pm 
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Sierra wrote:
Hey Jerry - first of all, welcome aboard!

I can't speak to comparison shopping between the 338 and 358 as I was originally targeting the Sea Ray 340DA when the V358 won me over. It was actually the same situation for a lot of 358 owners here - more details on those reasons can be found on the V358 thread. But I have some thoughts...

I am a firm believer in the adage, 'buy the biggest boat you feel comfortable budgeting for, for your perceived use.' I also believe that when you jump at least ten feet from where you're at (what are you in now?) you really feel the difference and, of course, you really feel it in the increase in beam and weight. But it's certainly not essential to enjoying the boat - it just may make you feel comfortable staying with it longer. I had an idea of what I wanted to spend but built in some flexibility. Over my first season with the 358 this boat made me fall in love with cruising and staying on board that much more. As is the sickness, I already would love to have added storage space and even better accommodations for guests, but I'll be moving into a whole other class/size range for that when the time comes. Until then, I'm thrilled with my decision. You're looking at three boats that are, as has been said, essentially the same in design and layout. If you plan to spend lots of time of board, perhaps with overnight guests, I refer you to the adage at the beginning of this paragraph. They're all great choices but more space is more space. And because Four Winns features as standard so many things that are options on competing brands in this class, you are already ahead of the game with Four Winns and the 'bang for the buck' factor.

One consideration is whether or not you want inboards. If you do, then the 358 is your only choice. The other boats will definitely give you more in terms of speed performance. I also recommend you take a careful look at some basic feature differences (as I'm sure you have been). I love having the extra room in the head and the separate shower. There are other things that I believe are only standard on the 358 like central vacuum, which certainly is no reason to choose one boat over another, but enough things on your 'want list' may add up.

Finally - and I don't know if you are thinking of this - in my opinion, the difference in operating costs should not be a major factor in a decision between these three boats. if you really do the math, the by-the-foot differences, while they may add up, are relatively negligible to the big financial picture of ownership. And if you have inboards, some of those costs are negated by the reduced maintenance over outdrives.

As the cliche goes, choosing a boat will always involve a series of compromises. What a happy problem to have. If you have any specific questions, please fire away. If you haven't noticed, we love talking about our boats!


Thanks a bunch!! As you said, its all about compromises!! Right now, the 338 feels like the right size and the right compromise.


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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:37 am 
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jerry540i wrote:
Right now, the 338 feels like the right size and the right compromise.


You can't go wrong, whichever the choice... keep us up to date and good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:43 am 
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We own a 348 (now called the 358, for no reason other than marketing as they're the exact same boat). The 338 was not available at the time. Had it been we would have given it serious consideration. I like it's galley layout better than the 348. I've only been on a 338 briefly, at a show, but here's where I noticed differences. The head is smaller and on the 348 the toilet/shower is separate from the sink. The front berth of the 348 has more room at the forward and outside edges (but the 338 has better table storage under it). The aft berth is a bit smaller. The port side lounger seat in the cockpit is a bit shorter. But other than these few differences the boats are remarkably similar to each other. I would not have been unhappy getting the 338 instead of a 358. But my wife really likes the long port lounger seat in the 348 and it would be a tough sell without it.

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:36 pm 
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No matter which size you look at this design has proven to be a winner...great layout, very comfortable, excellent "sea-keeping" ability...we've had the 318 for three full seasons and for us that means from very early in April to mid November every weekend (at least 95% of them) and every vacation we have had has been spent on that boat. While there are always things to tweak and wish for, and more space is always a little better, we've never felt overly cramped or hard pressed to move up...we did feel that way about our 288 after two seasons sleeping on the foam cushions. When I say "we" it is myself, the Admiral, and 70 pound lab with various numbers of extended family visits. Would say a call between the 338 and the 358 may be more dictated by who your "we" is!?! Two to Four would probably have no issues on the 338, anything more then the extra space and maybe a separate bulkhead on the 358 would work nicely.

Sierra - It is not a boat he had in stock...sounds like another dealer going under or being forced to liquidate with Bryan being the conduit...I won't see the boat until next week.

JB

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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:37 pm 
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quick question - where is the cooler located (or is there one?) on the 318,338 and 358?


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 Post subject: Re: 338 vs 358
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:47 pm 
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mkivbren wrote:
quick question - where is the cooler located (or is there one?) on the 318,338 and 358?


No dedicated cooler space on the V358. There is a cockpit fridge (or icemaker) on these boats. I keep a roller cooler under the cockpit table and it doesn't get in anybody's way.

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